Another of my videos. What do you think?
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jim454
Participating member
- Location
- The land of Utopia
Watched it during my break time, nicely done.
boreality
New member
- Location
- boreal forest
Very good. I like the dreamy music like Tahune Day 3. It works with the edited cuts which is smooth compared to what goes on in our heads during the actual process. You know a few swear words a couple spurred ropes etc.
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Do you have stills of the completed job?
Why were the trees reduced?
Why were the trees reduced?
tomthetreeman
Participating member
- Location
- Rhode Island
Nice music. Julee Cruise meets Tangerine Dream.
You did remove those trees, not pollard them, right?
-Tom
You did remove those trees, not pollard them, right?
-Tom
boreality
New member
- Location
- boreal forest
Oh, pollard, I see that in the title. Let the controversy begin.
boreality
New member
- Location
- boreal forest
Just thought I'd check back in on the controversy. I had to go out and pollard my lawn.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRt1_5Qt5G4
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Oh my gosh man! Are you telling me you weren't doing a full tree removal? Pollard? What I saw was topping to me and looks like you were using spikes as well. That tree has now become a maintanance nightmare. Seems like you have some roping skills too, it's a shame it wasn't a tree removal. ANSI A300 4.51 Topping: Reduction of tree size using internodal cuts without regard to tree health or structural integrity. Topping is not an acceptable pruning practice. (6.1.7) .
If you changed the title to tree removal, I'd give ya a thumbs up.
Hey, but welcome to treebuzz.
Don't let words on here effect you too much, they are just words man. And hopefully you won't be stubborn and just go even farther to the darkside.
And it's hard at first hearing critism or negative comments, but if you hang in there, you'll find you learn something after all.
I'm really keeping things toned down for me here too, if you knew me on the buzz and also this subject of TOPPING
, which is the absolute worse thing I feel an arborist can do. It ruins our trees, it ruins the public's view of arborists. It's like a medical doctor doing terrible malpractice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRt1_5Qt5G4
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Oh my gosh man! Are you telling me you weren't doing a full tree removal? Pollard? What I saw was topping to me and looks like you were using spikes as well. That tree has now become a maintanance nightmare. Seems like you have some roping skills too, it's a shame it wasn't a tree removal. ANSI A300 4.51 Topping: Reduction of tree size using internodal cuts without regard to tree health or structural integrity. Topping is not an acceptable pruning practice. (6.1.7) .
If you changed the title to tree removal, I'd give ya a thumbs up.
Hey, but welcome to treebuzz.
Don't let words on here effect you too much, they are just words man. And hopefully you won't be stubborn and just go even farther to the darkside.
And it's hard at first hearing critism or negative comments, but if you hang in there, you'll find you learn something after all.
I'm really keeping things toned down for me here too, if you knew me on the buzz and also this subject of TOPPING
His crane assisted tree removal video he did was good though (I know the tie in location in the crane's hooks wasn't to standard, but...) :
youtube crane assist link
youtube crane assist link
Thanks. Your a tough bunch. I know the spec wasn't ideal, but these are protected trees and the council here would never give permission to fell them. We did another on this site a few years back which was in a real bad way (honey fungus,cavities,etc) and they refused permission to fell that. I'll add some photos, there was decay on multiple stems and the leaders were begining to subside so we had to do something.
Holm Oaks are pretty resilient and will fluff out, they tend to decay slowly too. I guess they'll be pollarde again in 7-10 years.
I wanted to film this job as there was no real central leaders so it was an interesting rigging situation. To drop the lumps I wanted to we had to share the loading on 2 top anchors. The ground crew are excellent.
For the record I removed my spkies for the fininshed cuts. Who cares if I spiked the topps? they went anyway
Holm Oaks are pretty resilient and will fluff out, they tend to decay slowly too. I guess they'll be pollarde again in 7-10 years.
I wanted to film this job as there was no real central leaders so it was an interesting rigging situation. To drop the lumps I wanted to we had to share the loading on 2 top anchors. The ground crew are excellent.
For the record I removed my spkies for the fininshed cuts. Who cares if I spiked the topps? they went anyway
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Roger_Barnett
Participating member
- Location
- Seattle, in the PNWet
Cuts that large are topping cuts, not pollards, to be technical.
The decay will certainly progress at a far accelerated rate, it would seem to me.
The decay will certainly progress at a far accelerated rate, it would seem to me.
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I would hazard a guess that the decision to pollard that oak was not made by Mat (is that your name?) but rather by some "higher-ups" (council perhaps). Whether or not an individual would or should perform the work is another can of fish (my attempt at Brit speak). I do not believe ANSI applies as I think Matshute is across the pond.
Top notch crane removal. My unrequited advice would be first there are safer ways to hitch a ride on the crane (articles section of TreeBuzz) and secondly trim the mushroom off that wedge (5:10) before the pieces break off. Stay safe and I look forward to more videos in the future.
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Ahhh, I didn't know he was British at first, I thought he was here in the states.
Yeah, I saw that steel wedge and thought, maybe there is some type of leather or wood on the back of it; something I had never seen before because I couldn't believe it could be steel mushroomed that bad.
I would hazard a guess that the decision to pollard that oak was not made by Mat (is that your name?) but rather by some "higher-ups" (council perhaps). Whether or not an individual would or should perform the work is another can of fish (my attempt at Brit speak). I do not believe ANSI applies as I think Matshute is across the pond.
Top notch crane removal. My unrequited advice would be first there are safer ways to hitch a ride on the crane (articles section of TreeBuzz) and secondly trim the mushroom off that wedge (5:10) before the pieces break off. Stay safe and I look forward to more videos in the future.
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Ahhh, I didn't know he was British at first, I thought he was here in the states.
Yeah, I saw that steel wedge and thought, maybe there is some type of leather or wood on the back of it; something I had never seen before because I couldn't believe it could be steel mushroomed that bad.
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Thanks. Your a tough bunch. I know the spec wasn't ideal, but these are protected trees and the council here would never give permission to fell them. We did another on this site a few years back which was in a real bad way (honey fungus,cavities,etc) and they refused permission to fell that. I'll add some photos, there was decay on multiple stems and the leaders were begining to subside so we had to do something.
Holm Oaks are pretty resilient and will fluff out, they tend to decay slowly too. I guess they'll be pollarde again in 7-10 years.
I wanted to film this job as there was no real central leaders so it was an interesting rigging situation. To drop the lumps I wanted to we had to share the loading on 2 top anchors. The ground crew are excellent.
For the record I removed my spkies for the fininshed cuts. Who cares if I spiked the topps? they went anyway
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Ahh yes, I also do have spikes sent up to me if I'm removing a whole leader, then send them down again before I touch any of the rest of the tree.
Yes, interesting rigging situation. Thanks for sharing it.
That's amazing they will take 7-10 years to get back to that height again, that is really slow. Not familar with the specie, they must be really rot resistant not to rot out from those size cuts.
But.... why was the tree topped? To give someone a better view? I would imagine that oak is likely a strong tree if it wasn't hacked before. Over here, many uneducated property owners want their tree topped because they are worried about the trees height; they think topping will make it a safer tree.
Take care and thanks again for sharing.
Thanks. Your a tough bunch. I know the spec wasn't ideal, but these are protected trees and the council here would never give permission to fell them. We did another on this site a few years back which was in a real bad way (honey fungus,cavities,etc) and they refused permission to fell that. I'll add some photos, there was decay on multiple stems and the leaders were begining to subside so we had to do something.
Holm Oaks are pretty resilient and will fluff out, they tend to decay slowly too. I guess they'll be pollarde again in 7-10 years.
I wanted to film this job as there was no real central leaders so it was an interesting rigging situation. To drop the lumps I wanted to we had to share the loading on 2 top anchors. The ground crew are excellent.
For the record I removed my spkies for the fininshed cuts. Who cares if I spiked the topps? they went anyway
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Ahh yes, I also do have spikes sent up to me if I'm removing a whole leader, then send them down again before I touch any of the rest of the tree.
Yes, interesting rigging situation. Thanks for sharing it.
That's amazing they will take 7-10 years to get back to that height again, that is really slow. Not familar with the specie, they must be really rot resistant not to rot out from those size cuts.
But.... why was the tree topped? To give someone a better view? I would imagine that oak is likely a strong tree if it wasn't hacked before. Over here, many uneducated property owners want their tree topped because they are worried about the trees height; they think topping will make it a safer tree.
Take care and thanks again for sharing.
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Cuts that large are topping cuts, not pollards, to be technical.
The decay will certainly progress at a far accelerated rate, it would seem to me.
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Maybe they use the word pollarding for topping? Like a lot of tree guys on the West Coast of the US do.
I think true pollarding is really cool on certain species. Those big round "heads" with no decay anywhere is quite interesting.
An "okay" picture example attached.
Cuts that large are topping cuts, not pollards, to be technical.
The decay will certainly progress at a far accelerated rate, it would seem to me.
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Maybe they use the word pollarding for topping? Like a lot of tree guys on the West Coast of the US do.
I think true pollarding is really cool on certain species. Those big round "heads" with no decay anywhere is quite interesting.
An "okay" picture example attached.
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- Phoenix Arizona
Mulberry pollard nicely, I happen to like my trees full sized.
The rigging was ridiculously amazing. Another Reg, xman, Jamin, or Riggs.
Too bad for that tree though.
It would be awesome to see pictures taken every few months to see how it responds.
DId you use the spikes because you knew the pruning was more harmful than gaff wounds anyways?
Thanks for posting
The rigging was ridiculously amazing. Another Reg, xman, Jamin, or Riggs.
Too bad for that tree though.
It would be awesome to see pictures taken every few months to see how it responds.
DId you use the spikes because you knew the pruning was more harmful than gaff wounds anyways?
Thanks for posting
southsoundtree
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Olympia, WA
Seems funny how the trees are "protected".
Maybe that species of oak is amazingly resilient and that "treatment" won't damage them much.
I'd be amazed that they aren't diminished by such cutting.
What was the purpose of "pollarding" them?
Maybe that species of oak is amazingly resilient and that "treatment" won't damage them much.
I'd be amazed that they aren't diminished by such cutting.
What was the purpose of "pollarding" them?
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