Anchor Bridge recall for Cougar saddle bridge

Tobe_Sherrill

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Dear Cougar saddle owners,

Monday we learned that a climber experienced failure of the hand-spliced rope bridge attached to Weaver’s 2010 model Cougar saddles (units made since January of 2010 having a solid black rope bridge). No injury has been reported and no further details of the incident have been announced.

Weaver’s splice supplier for this single item Rich Hattier announced a recall/cessation of use and is asking owners to cut off the saddle’s rope bridge and return it with a signed acknowledgement form until a replacement is available. Weaver has reported they are seeking a different splicing source and should have replacements “in a few weeks.”

Anticipating a bottle neck of customer and dealer orders (Weaver reports about 1,200 units sold with this bridge) SherrillTree has pushed Weaver to deliver as many replacement units as possible to our facility until the recall is finalized.

Answers to questions already received:
1. Weaver announced that they are returning to “an alternative splice source” for replacements.
2. SherrillTree and certainly Yale, Samson, New England Rope and others with considerable splicing experience and production capacity could provide strong, reliable and insurable replacements but none will likely step into this OEM roll unless at Weaver’s direct request and approval. In other words, we cannot replace the bridge in this recall with a SherrillTree spliced product.

To keep this process as simple as possible for all, we request the following;
• Cut the (black) rope bridge from your Cougar saddle and mail it along with a signed acknowledgement form (found at SherrillTree.com) and return address to;
SherrillTree
c/o Weaver bridge recall
200 Seneca Road
Greensboro, NC 27406
• Replacements will be shipped FREE OF CHARGE on a first come, first served basis
• For those who send the cut bridge by mail to SherrillTree, I have authorized a $10 dollar credit for your trouble (1 per shipment)
• Alternatively, Weaver will accept digital photos of the removed bridge along with the signed form to make the process easier for SherrillTree customers.

NOTES:
This recall DOES NOT apply to rope bridges colored yellow and black
Please DO NOT send your entire saddle
We will assist anyone with the problem, you DO NOT have to have purchased the Cougar saddle from SherrillTree or a Vermeer dealer.

Further updates on this recall will be posted on http://www.sherrilltree.com

To safety,

Tobe Sherrill
 
Good on you Tobe. Good luck in sorting it all out.

Just to be clear: While the investigation is not complete it does not appear the rope bridge failed as a result of the splice itself. The potential causes of a broken bridge are many (type of hardware used, cordage defect, the method of usage etc.) but the skill of the splicer is not in question.

Huge props to Rich at ABR and Weaver Leather for their efforts in keeping us safe. Beyond this, I'll defer to their on-going investigation.
 
Yeah Rich already posted this(5 days ago) and I believe it was his decision to request a full recall.Way to stand behind your product Rich,im sure you will work it out and provide the next generation of bridges.
 
There is no doubt in my mind that Rich is on top of this in every way. I have personally spliced with him on more than one occasion and his standards are second to no one. I trust my life to his work every day and will continue to do so. There's more to this than implicating the "splicing source" so let's not draw any conclusions.
 
All,

SherrillTree rep and ISA certified arborist Tim Bushnell from Pennsylvania noted the following questions coming from customers in the field regarding the Cougar recall issue. Tim believes (as do I) that customers following the letter of this recall will want to act immediately even though Weaver has no replacement available, meaning a nonfunctional saddle for a minimum of 2 weeks. My answers follow;

1. Can I purchase a Glide (Buckingham) bridge and use it on my Cougar saddle?
A. These bridges are very similar in both length and construction but are not authorized for use on Weaver’s Cougar saddle.

2. What else can I use to form a bridge while I wait?
A. Although many materials have been employed for bridge configurations (e.g. HMPE, Aramid and Polyester cordage as well as flat woven nylon) I would await Weaver's chosen replacement if I were the owner.

3. Can I take a piece of arborist-grade climbing rope, securely attach it to my saddle bridge rings (using a scaffold knot) and use that as my bridge?
A. I understand from Weaver that this hasn’t been “tested” and therefore isn’t recommended.

4. Could you send a new bridge to me before I destroy the old one so I can use my saddle in the meantime?
A. No. According to Weaver the replacement can only be sent upon receipt (or photo) of the out of commission material.

Comment edited by poster; Second reported failure indicates that visual and/or physical inspection may not reveal a hazard beneath. IMMEDIATELY REMOVE THIS BRIDGE FROM SERVICE AS DIRECTED BY THE MANUFACTURER!!

Please inspect your life safety hardware and software regularly for signs of wear and tear, damage and deterioration. Remove, destroy and replace life support materials not passing a reasonable level of perceived safety. “If something looks worn out, assume it is and that you’re putting your life at an elevated level of risk by not acting.”

7. Was the incident due to poor splicing workmanship or defective materials?
A. In my opinion no. I have reviewed other work of the splicer and believe their craftsmanship to be top notch. The material has yet to be fully analized Again, the incident appears to have been the subject of excessive wear and splices do not appear to be culprit in the failure.

8. How many other such or similar failures have been reported?
A. Two total
9. Does SherrillTree find pleasure in performing recalls of their supplier’s goods?
A. Sure, in much the same way as arborists enjoy having their truck emptied by thieves or returning to jobs that a recent hire-and-fire didn’t do right the first time or finding rocks with a freshly sharpened chain saw or…

We will try to stay atop concerns regarding this recall in an effort to remain “candid” with all involved. Secrets and weak information are helpful to no one. <font color="red"> </font> <font color="red"> </font> <font color="red"> </font>
 
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We will try to stay atop concerns regarding this recall in an effort to remain “candid” with all involved. Secrets and weak information are helpful to no one.

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A commendable attitude. I will be interested to know the findings of the investigation into the bridge failure. As many have said, Rich is known for quality splicing. I hate that this is happening, but hopefully we will all know what happened, and what can be changed in the future.

It's all about coming home to the family at the end of the day.

And then sneaking off to get on Treebuzz.


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Weaver has reported they are seeking a different splicing source ...”

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If it wasn't the splice, why?



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The rope bridge’s polyester mantle (exterior layer) was worn through at least 30% the length of the material...

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Ummm, am I the only one that's wondering why the recall? The bridge sounds worn out to me, prematurely maybe. A rational person would suspect a bridge with 30% of the cover missing. As critical as a bridge is, what was someone doing climbing on that one?

Anybody heard of Tod Skinner?
 
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Weaver has reported they are seeking a different splicing source ...”

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If it wasn't the splice, why?

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Thats what I want to know as well.
 
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Me too. Hoping the 'little guy' doesn't get screwed here.

-Tom

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Especially for doing the right thing! Most of us are little guys too.

Kong gets a pass for behaving like pricks and then Rich gets hammered for putting safety first? Screw that! Maybe there's more to it, we'll have to wait to hear from Rich himself.
If Weaver ditched him cold for this... well, I'll remember and I'll remember often, out loud and in writing to anybody that buys gear.

The fact that we're just now learning how hi-mod/heat resistant fibers behave when used as a bridge isn't anybody's fault really... if that's the issue. And the 'failed' bridge sounded like it should've been retired a while back to me.

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“If something looks worn out, assume it is and that you’re putting your life at an elevated level of risk by not acting.”

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Simple advice. If a person doesn't have enough common sense to discard a heavily worn bridge... I mean seriously... IT'S A BRIDGE, IF IT FAILS WHILE YOU'RE ON IT YOU FALL!
Personally I think falling is unacceptable, I've tried it, very painful and altered my appearance rather significantly. Fortunately I'm sooooo good looking that I still have lots of good looks left.
 
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All,

SherrillTree rep and ISA certified arborist Tim Bushnell from Pennsylvania noted the following questions coming from customers in the field regarding the Cougar recall issue. Tim believes (as do I) that customers following the letter of this recall will want to act immediately even though Weaver has no replacement available, meaning a nonfunctional saddle for a minimum of 2 weeks. My answers follow;

1. Can I purchase a Glide (Buckingham) bridge and use it on my Cougar saddle?
A. These bridges are very similar in both length and construction but are not authorized for use on Weaver’s Cougar saddle.

2. What else can I use to form a bridge while I wait?
A. Although many materials have been employed for bridge configurations (e.g. HMPE, Aramid and Polyester cordage as well as flat woven nylon) I would await Weaver's chosen replacement if I were the owner.

3. Can I take a piece of arborist-grade climbing rope, securely attach it to my saddle bridge rings (using a scaffold knot) and use that as my bridge?
A. I understand from Weaver that this hasn’t been “tested” and therefore isn’t recommended.

4. Could you send a new bridge to me before I destroy the old one so I can use my saddle in the meantime?
A. No. According to Weaver the replacement can only be sent upon receipt (or photo) of the out of commission material.

5. Was there any indication of the rope bridge fraying or showing signs of deterioration before the “incident” occurred?
A. Yes, I was told by a Weaver representative that there WAS indication, and the climber for whom the incident occurred was able to safely descend to the ground. The subject bridge material presented clear signs of deterioration, including a worn through jacket.

6. Can you describe the “failure?”
A. The rope bridge’s polyester mantle (exterior layer) was worn through at least 30% the length of the material indicating that proper and advised inspection was not likely followed. The product was reported to have “at least 250 hours of climbing use.”
Please inspect your life safety hardware and software regularly for signs of wear and tear, damage and deterioration. Remove, destroy and replace life support materials not passing a reasonable level of perceived safety. “If something looks worn out, assume it is and that you’re putting your life at an elevated level of risk by not acting.”

7. Was the incident due to poor splicing workmanship or defective materials?
A. In my opinion no. I have reviewed other work of the splicer and believe their craftsmanship to be top notch. The material has yet to be fully analized Again, the incident appears to have been the subject of excessive wear and splices do not appear to be culprit in the failure.

8. How many other such or similar failures have been reported?
A. According to Weaver, none.
9. Does SherrillTree find pleasure in performing recalls of their supplier’s goods?
A. Sure, in much the same way as arborists enjoy having their truck emptied by thieves or returning to jobs that a recent hire-and-fire didn’t do right the first time or finding rocks with a freshly sharpened chain saw or…

We will try to stay atop concerns regarding this recall in an effort to remain “candid” with all involved. Secrets and weak information are helpful to no one.

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#7 says it all in Tobe's opinion.

why Weaver is sourcing another splicer is my question too; unless they need someone bigger who can get the order done faster?
 
Great posts above.

We all need to monitor this situation, but I wouldn't worry about Weaver doing the wrong thing. Dick K. and company are good people. I am impressed with all parties thus far.
 
Nothing to do with the little guy. Has everything to do with the product. My GUESS is that Rich does not want to use the same product he has in stock or the supplier he gets it from until the inventory has been tested. So in order of expediency, Weaver will have someone else do it.
 
Purely for the reason that I've not triple confirmed, I can only say that he's a friend of the Buzz and should likely speak up soon. Bridge reported to have failed today just like previous one, severed in the middle. Nobody injured.

Honestly, I didn't trust Rich's research before announcing this recall. From my perspective he'd NOT sought the opinion of fiber experts and (5 days in) was jumping the gun on an "uneducated evaluation" of the incident. I understand that he was only seeking local opinion and "break testing," when, there are available a number of "rope savants" in corners of the world who can accurately determine failures on site alone. I had inside speak that Rich would not listen to this reasonable directive. Well, now, perhaps Rich is "the one."

I might concur to nay on Aramid bridges ...for now. Still awaiting expert confirmation.
 
WOW!

I never expected a post like that from you. Are you saying that these bridges were incorrectly spliced and sourced by Rich?

Are you also alluding to the fact that Rich is the person who was hurt today by this bridge failure?

Some of that info may have been better kept on a private level. Looks bad on both parties.
 
Wow - Splice? Not the splice? The middle breaking, 2 people hurt and no one talking. Pointing fingers and not trusting people? Sounds like a lifetime movie!

Post some hard facts and post them soon. If there is something we can learn or inspect on our bridges no matter who they are from I know I would like to know.
 

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