Alternative to a stopper knot?
- Thread starter TimberSmith
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rope-a-dope
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- Asheville
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JeffGu
Been here much more than a while
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- Osceola, Nebraska
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moss
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- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
Ocean Polyester 10mm
Great subject!
Replacing a perfectly good stopper knot for something smaller, and even more wedge-shaped, to avoid wedging it in wedgable parts of a tree, and at the same time sacrificing security (...in some cases,) to me seems like a hiding to nothing. I took a different tack,
..by adding even MORE bulk!
If your lanyard is long enough to make it worth it, (Timbersmith, 3m maybe a bit short to make this work) consider throwing a second system on the dog-end of your strop. Ive been running this (or somthing like it) for close to 3 years now and would give up my lucky tree climbing underpands before going back to leaving my 'end' hanging in the breeze! The options it gives me FAR out-weigh the drawbacks, of sometimes/..often unclipping it to work out the twist as you would when simply clipping the end to your harness., this, plus the obvious gear-heavy appearence it might have to the purists!! Apart from that, its-all-GRAVY!!
I like to keep one side knot based, and the other mechanical for when things get sticky!
(...note: I grow to hate that Zillon on there, as side loading these things gives me cause for pause.. I often sideload my lanyard, and have only one pair of lucky underpants!!. When i can stomach cutting an emaculate stitched eye, its coming off and going in the SRT bag for some testing.)
(... :by the way, any suggestions for a replacement mechanical are very welcome. Something that will standup to SOME sideloading!)
But, back to the point.. Always having a ready third point of attachment is also really great, adding extra stability/security for those times when you're out cutting at an angle, with your boot wedged behind a dead peg!
Having "extra gear" is always a plus to! I canibalize this thing at least once a week for this-that-and-theother.
Beleive it or not, though, I AM a minimalist when planning what gear to hang, yet this thing has earned its place almost every outing! ..even with all the twist, and behind-the-back slackfeeding & daisychainin! ...And lets face it, if your still 'carrying' your gear once hanging from a rope, then you're climbing wrong!... or at least hanging your gear wrong!!
In conclusion. As an 'alternative' to a "standard" arborist's stopper knot, other than a BIGGER stopper knot, i would urge anyone to try this out.
.... ( if you didnt already, long before me.)
Replacing a perfectly good stopper knot for something smaller, and even more wedge-shaped, to avoid wedging it in wedgable parts of a tree, and at the same time sacrificing security (...in some cases,) to me seems like a hiding to nothing. I took a different tack,
..by adding even MORE bulk!
If your lanyard is long enough to make it worth it, (Timbersmith, 3m maybe a bit short to make this work) consider throwing a second system on the dog-end of your strop. Ive been running this (or somthing like it) for close to 3 years now and would give up my lucky tree climbing underpands before going back to leaving my 'end' hanging in the breeze! The options it gives me FAR out-weigh the drawbacks, of sometimes/..often unclipping it to work out the twist as you would when simply clipping the end to your harness., this, plus the obvious gear-heavy appearence it might have to the purists!! Apart from that, its-all-GRAVY!!
I like to keep one side knot based, and the other mechanical for when things get sticky!
(...note: I grow to hate that Zillon on there, as side loading these things gives me cause for pause.. I often sideload my lanyard, and have only one pair of lucky underpants!!. When i can stomach cutting an emaculate stitched eye, its coming off and going in the SRT bag for some testing.)
(... :by the way, any suggestions for a replacement mechanical are very welcome. Something that will standup to SOME sideloading!)
But, back to the point.. Always having a ready third point of attachment is also really great, adding extra stability/security for those times when you're out cutting at an angle, with your boot wedged behind a dead peg!
Having "extra gear" is always a plus to! I canibalize this thing at least once a week for this-that-and-theother.
Beleive it or not, though, I AM a minimalist when planning what gear to hang, yet this thing has earned its place almost every outing! ..even with all the twist, and behind-the-back slackfeeding & daisychainin! ...And lets face it, if your still 'carrying' your gear once hanging from a rope, then you're climbing wrong!... or at least hanging your gear wrong!!
In conclusion. As an 'alternative' to a "standard" arborist's stopper knot, other than a BIGGER stopper knot, i would urge anyone to try this out.
.... ( if you didnt already, long before me.)
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"Player one! Congratulations. You have unlocked the bonus function. Go to end of your lanyard to redeem."
Ive been searching for a thrifty adjustable lanyard choke for a short while now. And thanks to this thread refocusing me, plus a spare ropeman, i spotted this solution!
I can see some problems.
(...not including that Positioner, thats a death trap on its own ...and for demonstration purposes only.)
(...its my Sunday lanyard!)
Ive been searching for a thrifty adjustable lanyard choke for a short while now. And thanks to this thread refocusing me, plus a spare ropeman, i spotted this solution!
I can see some problems.
(...not including that Positioner, thats a death trap on its own ...and for demonstration purposes only.)
(...its my Sunday lanyard!)
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Hmmm...a choked lanyard...???
Help me out. Why have the adjustable lanyard on top of a lanyard?
Isn't the same thing achieved by either:
---double wrapping your lanyard around the tree making it choke and hold position
---use the smaller sling/friction hitch in the traditional
Configuration
I'm really missing something. Seems like more complication to
Solve a simple problem
Educate me
Help me out. Why have the adjustable lanyard on top of a lanyard?
Isn't the same thing achieved by either:
---double wrapping your lanyard around the tree making it choke and hold position
---use the smaller sling/friction hitch in the traditional
Configuration
I'm really missing something. Seems like more complication to
Solve a simple problem
Educate me
Double wraping is great, and does a good holding job, but is a paaaaain in the butt to advance up a vertical stem! I need something that i can cinch quick, then loosen quick to advance, when using spikes/ orplatform. (without needing Travolta's hips)
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- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Now I see
The French version is clever and compact
The French version is clever and compact
Yip! You're right Tom. ...thtrifty to!!
...so to recap,
For sale:
1 × ropeman m2,
50% of a lanyard (130% to most!)
1 x lucky underpands.
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Richard Mumford-yoyoman
Been here a while
- Location
- Atlanta GA
Sewn eye.
'..available soon!'
Coming up I have some pretty 'fugly-ass' cypress to dead wood, oozing all kinds of gunk! Lots of short stropping close to that eye! Badly pruned until now, so have micro-pegs on every surface!
How does that work? Is it just hanging when not used, as a normal tail end may be? And basicly used to 'Tarzan' around? (I foresee lots of 'backing-off' your main line to unhook in this configuration,) ... or maybe replacing that last biner on the rope-end of my lanyard, making it adjustable?
Even BIGGER!
...
I LIKE!!
(..SRTing your lanyard advice needed!)
(...what if i add a rope-wrench? ...)
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This would be a "stopper-TANK!!"
@Bob Bob only the smaller one is sewn. The Tenex one is just melted to the cover stopper. Sewing makes it stronger and more reliable than just the melted area, it depends on the use for how secure it needs to be.
The small green accessory cord is just seized with a West Country whipping. I used it for more of an indicator if there was any slippage in the anchor knot. I made a thin lightweight saw lanyard using the seizings to make grips on the small diameter rope, but are attached differently so they can't be pulled off.
The small green accessory cord is just seized with a West Country whipping. I used it for more of an indicator if there was any slippage in the anchor knot. I made a thin lightweight saw lanyard using the seizings to make grips on the small diameter rope, but are attached differently so they can't be pulled off.
