- Location
- rhode island
I have a question about the red technora 16 strand hollow braid. How many strands are supposed to be removed to splice it like an E2E. Is it 6, 8, or 10?
All Gear Tech Chord Taper
- Thread starter banjo
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- Location
- Orange, MA
I've just been removing 6 and tapering the remaining 10. Super smooth crossover with a very consistent diameter the length of the prussik cord.
- Location
- rhode island
What do you think about removing ten?
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
I do 8, (half the strands) on the pull and taper the end with an angled cut.
- Location
- rhode island
Do you think pulling ten is bad?
- Location
- Orange, MA
No input from me, not sure the effect pulling 10 would have, if any, on the strength of the splice. Maybe if you were only doing a short bury with no crossover? Maybe Nick or Morra may have some insight for ya.
Norm_Hall
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- Location
- Wauconda, (Chicago),IL,USA
- Location
- rhode island
It's not so much that I want to. I already did. I kind of hit cruise control in my brain and treated it like a 16 strand climbing line. I spliced an e2e on a pinto and want to know if you guys think its cool. I did a 5+ inch crossover if that makes any difference.
- Location
- Pukalani, Hawaii
can you splice all gears tech cord like you splice tenex with locking brummels?
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
Yep, except it's 16 strand instead of 12.
Norm_Hall
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- Location
- Wauconda, (Chicago),IL,USA
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It's not so much that I want to. I already did. I kind of hit cruise control in my brain and treated it like a 16 strand climbing line. I spliced an e2e on a pinto and want to know if you guys think its cool. I did a 5+ inch crossover if that makes any difference.
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So, you marked every 5th pair for the taper?
It's not so much that I want to. I already did. I kind of hit cruise control in my brain and treated it like a 16 strand climbing line. I spliced an e2e on a pinto and want to know if you guys think its cool. I did a 5+ inch crossover if that makes any difference.
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So, you marked every 5th pair for the taper?
- Location
- Pukalani, Hawaii
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Yep, except it's 16 strand instead of 12.
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after making the locking brummels, how long should i leave the tail portions that get buried?
Yep, except it's 16 strand instead of 12.
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after making the locking brummels, how long should i leave the tail portions that get buried?
- Location
- Orange, MA
I do a 4" crossover in the middle. The cord is so small I don't mind doing a full bury with xover. Not sure what the minimum tail length would be if you just did a short bury.
Gets really slick once its glazed though! Which is fine since its cheap and super easy to splice.
Oops, reread that. I do an 8" crossover, 4" on each end past the center point.
Gets really slick once its glazed though! Which is fine since its cheap and super easy to splice.
Oops, reread that. I do an 8" crossover, 4" on each end past the center point.
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
I think Tech Cord is Class 2 so i'm thinking 2 fids for the bury. With Tenex I do 7" of crossover, 3-1/2" on either side of the mid-point
- Location
- rhode island
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It's not so much that I want to. I already did. I kind of hit cruise control in my brain and treated it like a 16 strand climbing line. I spliced an e2e on a pinto and want to know if you guys think its cool. I did a 5+ inch crossover if that makes any difference.
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So, you marked every 5th pair for the taper?
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Yup, exactly.
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It's not so much that I want to. I already did. I kind of hit cruise control in my brain and treated it like a 16 strand climbing line. I spliced an e2e on a pinto and want to know if you guys think its cool. I did a 5+ inch crossover if that makes any difference.
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So, you marked every 5th pair for the taper?
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Yup, exactly.
Norm_Hall
New member
- Location
- Wauconda, (Chicago),IL,USA
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It's not so much that I want to. I already did. I kind of hit cruise control in my brain and treated it like a 16 strand climbing line. I spliced an e2e on a pinto and want to know if you guys think its cool. I did a 5+ inch crossover if that makes any difference.
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So, you marked every 5th pair for the taper?
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Yup, exactly.
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For future reference, mark every other pair (from the entry point, count down 8 strands, then mark a pair, skip a pair, mark a pair, skip a pair, and so on. So, you have a full volume bury for 8 pairs, before the taper).
Did you do a strate bury? No tucks 1st?
Let us know how your cord works. It'll be fine as long as it's stitched. Six strands buried mite work better than 7. I haven't tried it, cause I like the way mine grabs with 7 buried.
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It's not so much that I want to. I already did. I kind of hit cruise control in my brain and treated it like a 16 strand climbing line. I spliced an e2e on a pinto and want to know if you guys think its cool. I did a 5+ inch crossover if that makes any difference.
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So, you marked every 5th pair for the taper?
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Yup, exactly.
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For future reference, mark every other pair (from the entry point, count down 8 strands, then mark a pair, skip a pair, mark a pair, skip a pair, and so on. So, you have a full volume bury for 8 pairs, before the taper).
Did you do a strate bury? No tucks 1st?
Let us know how your cord works. It'll be fine as long as it's stitched. Six strands buried mite work better than 7. I haven't tried it, cause I like the way mine grabs with 7 buried.
Norm_Hall
New member
- Location
- Wauconda, (Chicago),IL,USA
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Yep, except it's 16 strand instead of 12.
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after making the locking brummels, how long should i leave the tail portions that get buried?
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Tech cord is indeed a 'Class 2' fiber.
If you're doing locking brummels, you only need 1 full fid bury, then stitched.
But, I do a taper and a bury with a crossover. It makes for a smoother transition. (Much kinder to the cordage)
Joshua, what's your application? Eye & eye?
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Yep, except it's 16 strand instead of 12.
[/ QUOTE ]
after making the locking brummels, how long should i leave the tail portions that get buried?
[/ QUOTE ]
Tech cord is indeed a 'Class 2' fiber.
If you're doing locking brummels, you only need 1 full fid bury, then stitched.
But, I do a taper and a bury with a crossover. It makes for a smoother transition. (Much kinder to the cordage)
Joshua, what's your application? Eye & eye?
- Location
- Orange, MA
Norm, do you find it to be more, or less grabby with a fuller diameter? If I went to 6 or 7 tapered, would I likely find it to grab more or less than my current 10? Or are you speaking more in terms of the 'stiffness' of the cord, and how consistently the hitch sets itself on the host line?
Norm_Hall
New member
- Location
- Wauconda, (Chicago),IL,USA
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Norm, do you find it to be more, or less grabby with a fuller diameter? If I went to 6 or 7 tapered, would I likely find it to grab more or less than my current 10? Or are you speaking more in terms of the 'stiffness' of the cord, and how consistently the hitch sets itself on the host line?
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I find it less grabby the bigger diameter it is.
I use the tech cord and TVP, in 5/16's" diameter, for secret weapons and hitch cord. I've found that on Tachyon and Rocket Line with 9 strands removed, it grabs better. With 8 removed, it didn't grab and set as well.
With 9 removed, it sets, grabs and releases very nicely for me. I'm 203 pounds, plus gear. It's gonna depend on climber weight, rope construction & diameter, and hitch cord length.
Mine are 31" in length.
I let a volunteer climber use 1 of my secret weapons for set up at our local comp in May. He liked it so much, he asked me to make him 1. His system was much like mine, SRT up while advancing the weapon with a DRT in it.
Norm, do you find it to be more, or less grabby with a fuller diameter? If I went to 6 or 7 tapered, would I likely find it to grab more or less than my current 10? Or are you speaking more in terms of the 'stiffness' of the cord, and how consistently the hitch sets itself on the host line?
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I find it less grabby the bigger diameter it is.
I use the tech cord and TVP, in 5/16's" diameter, for secret weapons and hitch cord. I've found that on Tachyon and Rocket Line with 9 strands removed, it grabs better. With 8 removed, it didn't grab and set as well.
With 9 removed, it sets, grabs and releases very nicely for me. I'm 203 pounds, plus gear. It's gonna depend on climber weight, rope construction & diameter, and hitch cord length.
Mine are 31" in length.
I let a volunteer climber use 1 of my secret weapons for set up at our local comp in May. He liked it so much, he asked me to make him 1. His system was much like mine, SRT up while advancing the weapon with a DRT in it.
- Location
- Pukalani, Hawaii
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Yep, except it's 16 strand instead of 12.
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after making the locking brummels, how long should i leave the tail portions that get buried?
[/ QUOTE ]
Tech cord is indeed a 'Class 2' fiber.
If you're doing locking brummels, you only need 1 full fid bury, then stitched.
But, I do a taper and a bury with a crossover. It makes for a smoother transition. (Much kinder to the cordage)
Joshua, what's your application? Eye & eye?
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yes norm. i was looking at making a couple 28" eye an eyes
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Yep, except it's 16 strand instead of 12.
[/ QUOTE ]
after making the locking brummels, how long should i leave the tail portions that get buried?
[/ QUOTE ]
Tech cord is indeed a 'Class 2' fiber.
If you're doing locking brummels, you only need 1 full fid bury, then stitched.
But, I do a taper and a bury with a crossover. It makes for a smoother transition. (Much kinder to the cordage)
Joshua, what's your application? Eye & eye?
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yes norm. i was looking at making a couple 28" eye an eyes
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