Aerial rescues with basal anchors? Anybody actually know of one done?

I refer to them now as adjustable. There is benefit in having the ability to add and/ or remove rope from a system at times.
Other than making sure you're securely tied in with a safety lanyard, are there any other things you must do while adjusting the length of your rope?

I have a tree with a good TIP that is about 80 feet up. My 3:1 climbing rig with 200 feet of rope can only get me to 65 feet. If I climb that far, tie off, and shorten the anchor rope with an alpine butterfly with a long bight, I could climb higher without investing in a much longer rope that I wouldn't use very often.
 
Other than making sure you're securely tied in with a safety lanyard, are there any other things you must do while adjusting the length of your rope?

I have a tree with a good TIP that is about 80 feet up. My 3:1 climbing rig with 200 feet of rope can only get me to 65 feet. If I climb that far, tie off, and shorten the anchor rope with an alpine butterfly with a long bight, I could climb higher without investing in a much longer rope that I wouldn't use very often.

Not sure I am following what you propose?

In my experience a climber may choose to have more or less rope in a system for a specific purpose then have the amount altered at the base anchor by the ground crew.

An good example was when one climber chose a base anchor on a tree adjacent to the tree he was to crown reduce. The tree he was working was stable, but did have some compromised sections about 3/4 up. That was the reason for the weight reduction. With lean and rigging required we reasoned that removing the risk of having the TIP in the same tree we were rigging was justified.
once that work was done the climber elected to keep the anchor, but transfer to yet another adjacent tree for some dead wood and further light crown removal. He needed more rope as we kept his tail just long enough so the ground crew didn’t have to putz with it while rigging. He needed more rope after the redirect that positioned hime against a heavy swing in the second work tree.

The base anchor was not even in the rescue conversation for EAP or JSA on this job. The base anchor simply gave the climber security and peace of mind, the adjustability gave him versatility and efficiency. We call this Aerial rescue prevention and like th cliche, an ounce of it is worth a pound of cure.

Yes, secure in with positioning lanyard. Clearly communicate to the ground crew.

Does this take training and protocol. Yes, but we don’t have an issue training our boys and girls up the tasks. If they cannot master the tools and techniques we require they don’ t stay long.

Tony
 
If any of you know Brick Reilly (Works in Millburn, NJ) he posted a very good Facebook video of a method he uses. Does require another "climber" or at least saddle proficient user on ground. Check him out, it's his to offer, not mine, but I'm thinking about employing it. Sure someone here knows him, he might be here as well.

When I began SRT for ascending only long time ago, system was far too difficult to self rescue or descend, so we just used plenty of rope and a portawrap or grigri. Not a bad system, minus all the rope needed. This was "tree frog" system and such, 15 years ago.
Brick is a super guy. I've met him and talked with him at several comps. We have a bit of a connection, he is deaf and my in-laws and wife are deaf.
 
Brick is a super guy. I've met him and talked with him at several comps. We have a bit of a connection, he is dead and my in-laws and wife are deaf.
I know brick too ,,well I've spoken to him at conferences for years like nj isa or tcia and was grouped with him in a tree comp I believe back in '15 or so, oom.. he's a communication specialist as many people with lack of hearing need to become.. many senses are heightened and that's amazing how people can become so aware on different levels when that sort of thing occurs. Like I even picked up without my glasses squinting you wrote dead and I knew you meant deaf. Lol Bricks a classic and so are you... :tanguero:
 
I know brick too ,,well I've spoken to him at conferences for years like nj isa or tcia and was grouped with him in a tree comp I believe back in '15 or so, oom.. he's a communication specialist as many people with lack of hearing need to become.. many senses are heightened and that's amazing how people can become so aware on different levels when that sort of thing occurs. Like I even picked up without my glasses squinting you wrote dead and I knew you meant deaf. Lol Bricks a classic and so are you... :tanguero:
I told Brick about this thread and he said he should be more active here. Let's see if he stops in and answers some questions
 
Thank you for the complement treetop. Hope brick does join us here.
@Mark Chisholm @oldoakman @Treetopflyer @BooRad

Hi all! Finally made it in here!

Thanks for the shout outs and kind words. It’s much appreciated. ☺️

I’ll get right into it. Basal anchor aerial rescues.

Right off the bat, I want to say this. As with every other tool and technique we use, there is no one size fits all approach.

The set up that I posted about brought on some agreements, disagreements and most importantly, new ideas to chew on.

The key point i would like to drive home is this. Every job, my co worker and I make sure we have an aerial rescue plan, and set up for that. From first aid kit, his climbing set up and down to the details of what access set up we are going to use.

In the scenario I set up, it was a sweet gum tree with a huge ascent before the first limb, about 30 feet. Nothing daunting for most of us, but the mindset was “what if.” What if there is a problem? What if I faint, hornets nest, pull my arm out of socket?

I was still going to be on the SRS line, and my co workers skill level isn’t where he can ascend underneath and perform an aerial rescue.

Thus lower-able anchor came into play.

Two things that stuck out for me in discussions that transpired.

One being, “what if when you are lowering injured or unconscious climber and they get stuck in a crotch or gear is snagged up on something? Answer was that the ground personnel HAS to be smart and know if the lower able is the best solution for a rescue! Just because it is set up, doesn’t mean that it is to be used.

In the case of Rachel, the women who fell and shattered her spine, it was a perfect situation to use. And she did, but from what I understand, it wasn’t the smoothest set up AND the coworker had a I know it all attitude. A knife was used to cut the climbing line that was anchored to tree, but the prussic (attaches to another line but just held by co worker) that was supposed to hold her now cut line, didn’t have a chance to tighten onto the line as it recoiled through it and she fell.

The second spurred on an idea to work on, to then ascend the anchored side and then put in second climbing system. That second system would be taken out of lower able pulley system and brought up with rescue climber. Problem is that the TIP will now see quadruple the body weight. Thoughts are always welcomed!

So, to wrap it up, the set up is always used (tree dependent) in the form of alpine butterflies at the base anchor. One to hook up line and the other to use for the same purpose, to attach a second line and perform the exact same thing.

It’s kind of like dressing for colder weather. If you don’t have layers, you get colder. If you have layers and get warm, you can take some off and be comfortable.

If the lower able anchor is the best answer, use it. If not, go to plan B and on to Z until the person is rescued.

Sorry for loooooong response!
 
I really like “Brick’s” response for making a plan with the crew before ever ascending the tree. I can also relate with”Benjo75” of not feeling comfortable with putting my life in the hands of those who are working on the ground. Perhaps if I was climbing with someone I trusted and have successfully trained in accomplished rescues: that would be cool. I never work with such individuals: they are out doing their own jobs and we climb alone often. As “27RMTON” brought up: having the ground crew with their number on speed dial seems a great idea. Depends on how far away they are.

I think the greatest contingency plan for my life is to make sure someone on the ground has the ability and knowledge to dial 911.
 
For sure. They should know the address too. Should go without saying, but when your work day starts at the shop and the whole crew convoys to the job, does everyone really know the address or did they follow someone there?
The better organized tree services I worked for would have a carbon copy of the estimate sheet, on a clipboard in the chip truck.
 
For sure. They should know the address too. Should go without saying, but when your work day starts at the shop and the whole crew convoys to the job, does everyone really know the address or did they follow someone there?
The better organized tree services I worked for would have a carbon copy of the estimate sheet, on a clipboard in the chip truck.
Use a grease pencil. Write in on the drivers side window of every truck. Wipe off when you leave.

For those of you that that pre work rescue planning is new. Start today. A good JSA and EAP (job site assessment / emergency action plan) is quick easy and vital. one focuses on what to do right. The other on what to do if it goes wrong. Always a good idea.

Tony
 
I actually used a basal tie as a lowering system once for one of my climbers (then) when he was attacked by hornets while ascending. This was many years ago before any SRT systems were created and used in tree climbing. He had his line tied off at the base with a simple running bowline and a tuck and was using a handled ascender and backup to footlocker a single line.

In a matter of a few seconds I came up with a plan to use the tail of his line that was on the ground below him to create a "loop" of his ascent line. I got a full wrap on the tree, tied a friction hitch on his line above the running bowline, had help pulling some slack on it and untied the bowline. We then tied a stopper in that end and I lowered him to the ground. This was done before one of my other guys returned with their climbing gear to attempt a standard rescue.

This was the only time I have ever performed a real rescue on a jobsite (thankfully). This did however give me the knowledge of how to prepare for a lowering situation from then on by using a loop style ascent line.
 

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