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DTS

DTS

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This is a great example of the shady greedy equipment dealers that sponsor face book pages to acquire equipment and then mark it up. When i questioned it he deleted my post and me from the page. Can’t delete it here Rick!C2492A17-B24C-4575-9847-0C046216BC52.webpCD230C81-DB8D-425A-BF3B-F5855B3D936F.webp
 
What is shady about buying something and reselling it? No one forced Jesse to sell the machine for presumably $35k just like no one is forced to buy it from Rick for $15k more, or less if they can negotiate a better deal.

I agree it's an ambitious markup, I've never made that much on a machine, but I sell new, better margins on used.
 
David decker.
what exactly is wrong with buying a piece of equipment cheap in the middle if the winter time from a guy who was hard up for cash, and selling it for what its worth ? are you angry cause you couldn't afford the equipment ?
 
So you were saying David, it's a scam to buy something for one price and sell it for another at a profit?

So lets just check your intelligence here. Buy something for 35k. Ship it home for $1500. Clean, service, insure, warehouse, advertise, and pay an employee to resell it. Exactly how much profit do you think is left. I'll help you. 17% or $3400 on average.

So further to your point, when you do a job for a customer for $5000. Did you profit $5000? I bet not. I'm sure you will be quick to explain all of your equipment and overhead costs. I bet if you are playing by the rules, you would be lucky to profit 20% or $1000 on that $5000 job.

As a business owner yourself, I can't imagine you are really that stupid to think I would stand to make $15,000 on this transaction. If you are then I guess you are stupid enough to believe that every time you buy something in a store, they don't add 50% or more to the cost of what they bought the goods for before they sold it to you? Are the stores you shop at all "Greedy"

I have 16 employees at our dealership, and spend over 60k a month in advertising. Your post was deleted and you were deleted from "MY" group yesterday for uncalled for ignorance. You didn't ask me a question, you just make a rude comment.

I want to thank you though. I had forgotten about the tree buzz page I signed up for many years ago until I was imformed of your post today. I will be advertising the hell out of this site by Monday. Expect to see my banners everywhere. Much appreciated for reminding me of this excellent platform to peddle my machines.

Have a good day...... RICK
 
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RICKSTREE said:
So you were saying David, it's a scam to buy something for one price and sell it for another at a profit?

So lets just check your intelligence here. Buy something for 35k. Ship it home for $1500. Clean, service, insure, warehouse, advertise, and pay an employee to resell it. Exactly how much profit do you think is left. I'll help you. 17% or $3400 on average.

So further to your point, when you do a job for a customer for $5000. Did you profit $5000? I bet not. I'm sure you will be quick to explain all of your equipment and overhead costs. I bet if you are playing by the rules, you would be lucky to profit 20% or $1000 on that $5000 job.

As a business owner yourself, I can't imagine you are really that stupid to think I would stand to make $15,000 on this transaction. If you are then I guess you are stupid enough to believe that every time you buy something in a store, they don't add 50% or more to the cost of what they bought the goods for before they sold it to you? Are the stores you shop at all "Greedy"

I have 16 employees at our dealership, and spend over 60k a month in advertising. Your post was deleted and you were deleted from "MY" group yesterday for uncalled for ignorance. You didn't ask me a question, you just make a rude comment.

I want to thank you though. I had forgotten about the tree buzz page I signed up for many years ago until I was imformed of your post today. I will be advertising the hell out of this site by Monday. Expect to see my banners everywhere. Much appreciated for reminding me of this excellent platform to peddle my machines.

Have a good day...... RICK
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First of all Rick this isn’t the first time you deleted something I posted and you booted me off your page for my ignorance and my comment to bad I didn’t even leave a comment!!!!!! You were informed by another dealer who also deletes my comments that ask truthful questions I get deleted because they don’t like to get called out. If you’d like I could blast this post with trucks, equipment, makes,models,colors etc and the business that bought them and the issues they had with them!!!! But I won’t
 
tristateforestry said:
David decker.
what exactly is wrong with buying a piece of equipment cheap in the middle if the winter time from a guy who was hard up for cash, and selling it for what its worth ? are you angry cause you couldn't afford the equipment ?
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Your quick to defend your buddy which is good you also delete my comments because you don’t like questions from someone you can’t BS. I don’t know how you are still in business just reading your replies to potential customers makes me cringe. And I usually buy all new equipment and affording the chipper wasn’t an issue but thanks for caring.
 
I’ll end this post by saying I built my business on honesty,integrity,hard work and knowledge of the industry. It’s not a lot to ask that back from the dealers you rely on to provide you with equipment so you can go to work each day. If I offended anyone personally I’m sorry and hope you the best in your business also.
 
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Let’s leave it with this. You putting together my ad along with someone else’s ad that has nothing to do with you is where you went wrong, and why were deleted. I’m in business to make a profit like you are. You have no idea what my overhead is. I run an honest business also and don’t appreciate you attempting to villify me because I’m buying and selling equipment. There’s nothing shady about it. The reality is your just jealous because I’m going make money selling a machine that you happened to see what our cost of acquisition was. How about you just mind your business, admit you don’t know all the details of the situation, and move on with your life. There is nothing dishonest about what I do for a living. You’re just too stupid to realize it.
 
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I’m surely not jealous of you! You will not find one negative comment or article about myself or my business I can’t say the same about you. I have first hand knowledge of equipment that you sold to people I know so I’ll leave it at that. You may think I’m stupid but I’ll never be stupid enough to buy anything from you.
 
RICKSTREE said:
So you were saying David, it's a scam to buy something for one price and sell it for another at a profit?

So lets just check your intelligence here. Buy something for 35k. Ship it home for $1500. Clean, service, insure, warehouse, advertise, and pay an employee to resell it. Exactly how much profit do you think is left. I'll help you. 17% or $3400 on average.

So further to your point, when you do a job for a customer for $5000. Did you profit $5000? I bet not. I'm sure you will be quick to explain all of your equipment and overhead costs. I bet if you are playing by the rules, you would be lucky to profit 20% or $1000 on that $5000 job.

As a business owner yourself, I can't imagine you are really that stupid to think I would stand to make $15,000 on this transaction. If you are then I guess you are stupid enough to believe that every time you buy something in a store, they don't add 50% or more to the cost of what they bought the goods for before they sold it to you? Are the stores you shop at all "Greedy"

I have 16 employees at our dealership, and spend over 60k a month in advertising. Your post was deleted and you were deleted from "MY" group yesterday for uncalled for ignorance. You didn't ask me a question, you just make a rude comment.

I want to thank you though. I had forgotten about the tree buzz page I signed up for many years ago until I was imformed of your post today. I will be advertising the hell out of this site by Monday. Expect to see my banners everywhere. Much appreciated for reminding me of this excellent platform to peddle my machines.

Have a good day...... RICK
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The worth of a machine is only what someone will pay for it...Just because it is advertised for such and such a price doesn't mean that is what it sells for.

Thanks for showing us what a dealerships overhead is, I think I will buy new or from an individual from here on out if possible.
 
DTS....that's just the way things go. You know how much your bank is making off of you on your mortgage? They wouldn't give you a loan if they weren't making money. Similarly, Rick wouldn't have bought your chipper if he couldn't make money. Then you'd be sad you had a chipper and no $$$$. Plus, Rick's going to make even more money because the only person who's going to buy that chipper for 50k probably only has 10k to put down on it. Poor guy is going to end up paying 60+ for it if Rick does well. More power to him. Don't hate! Just get more money!

Dealers can charge up the ass cause they have financing power. I can't imagine many guys are going to roll into Rick's yard with 50k cash to buy that machine. DTS, I bet you could have got more for it if you decided to finance it to someone. Good luck with that......
 
I still don't understand Davids point. Buy machine, clean up and resell for profit = He must be a scam artist?

As for buying new or from an individual, absolutely will get a better deal if you can find the machine you are looking for. My job is to collect the machines that people would be most interested in. Not worn out garbage that people are just trying to get rid of. It takes a lot of leg work to locate them, and a lot of capital to aquire them. And as the fella above mentioned, as a dealer I have the ability to finance buyers that otherwise would not be able to buy from a private owner, or maybe could not afford or qualify for brand new. Either way, nothing I do is shady, illegal, or even frowned upon. It may not be, but it just feels like a jealousy to me. but i could be wrong.
 
I had my two beers and now feel obliged to weigh in. I am guilty of suspecting every used equipment dealer, car salesman, and horse trader of learned moral deficiency. I suspect that character flaws are endemic to the trade. I imagine an overwhelming temptations to exploit the ignorance and irrationality of consumers, to buy problematic equipment at a low price, clean it up superficially, and sell it at a high price. Rick defends himself by speaking of the expenses he incurs when flipping these machines, but the costs he enumerates do not change my prejudices. Shipping, cleaning, insuring, warehousing, advertising, and paying sales people may well be costly, but they don't add much value to the thing being sold. In the end it's just the same old chipper with new knives, fluids, and paint. I despise knowing that my dollars are going to salesmanship, advertising, and paint. In my imagined utopia the used equipment dealer would direct his spending toward training and employing skilled mechanics who could fix problematic equipment so that it could be sold for a price that reflected the added value. Presumably there are market forces that make such a business very difficult to sustain.
 
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