10mm lanyard options

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I’ve been using 10mm OP as a second lanyard for a long time now. Bundles up so nice and small, easy to stash anywhere on the saddle. Coming time to replace, has anyone had experience with other 10mm options? 10mm seems to be just the right size for occasional deployment. Can be yanked on by the hands without regretting your life choices. OP is nice and strong, supple, makes a great partner.

I see Reep Shnur is the factory delivered hook line choice - no experience with the feel of that. Anyone?

10.5 platinum doesn’t seem like it would be nice, I use it for my bridge. Much slickness, much no.

10mm HTP seems regrettable also. I use it for my hook line. 9mm - forget it.
 
I use 10mm Reep Shnur for my lanyard and like it just fine. No idea if it's better than anything else in that size bracket but it certainly works well for me.
 
Yale R.I.N.G comes in 10.5, really nice hand/durable…similar to Tritech. I’ve also had several friends use Donaghys 10mm armor prus, Beeline and Veritas as secondary lanyards which are nice options as well.
 
My reasoning for using 10mm line for my lanyard is I use it as a mini SRS climbing system most of the time. I don't find myself hauling back with my hand grip alone
when it is under full body weight. A haul-back or foot ascender reduce the grip strength needed and help in those situations. With the small diameter line it is easy to carry a decent amount on your harness without it adding much weight and taking up less room than thicker line would.

Now if you are talking flip lines when on spurs, bigger is better and stiff enough to flip well. Two totally different tools in my mind.
 
I've used Tritech for years but it's fairly stiff. Not something you're gonna stuff easily. It's tuff as hell though. Lasts forever and stiff enough to do a fat ascent flip lining up. Not like a steel core by any means but still good.
 
Matias said:
I am kinda surprised by this whole discussion. I have already started to prefer thicker ropes after starting on 11mm, and frankly on a lanyard, I can't imagine a few grams making much difference. Y'all must have a mean grip.
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my primary lanyard is a regular ass 12-14 foot 11.5 whatever with nice enough grip. 10mm as a second lanyard has been the best addition to my harness ever. Bunches up with two daisy chains and hooks cleanly to the terminating carabiner idk 1/2 the size of a basketball or something. Larger 2nd lanyard becomes frustrating and too bulky. Weight is not the issue. Comes off probably half the time, never gets in the way I.e coming back up through a redirect. Also can get it to flick and slide through a tight crotch much easier.
 
Whatever floats your boats I guess. I hear you guys on the non primary nature of the thing, and am not thinking of it as a flipline. I can see it being useable, but after getting an 8mm line for my 5:1 system, I just don't see it making enough difference for me to care about bulk. I probably climb gorilla style compared to some folks being like spider monkeys, but I get around just fine with a bullrope bag on my belt, even in relatively tight quarters. I am sure I will continue streamlining, so we'll see. Maybe I'll understand one day.
 
DSMc said:
My reasoning for using 10mm line for my lanyard is I use it as a mini SRS climbing system most of the time. I don't find myself hauling back with my hand grip alone
when it is under full body weight. A haul-back or foot ascender reduce the grip strength needed and help in those situations. With the small diameter line it is easy to carry a decent amount on your harness without it adding much weight and taking up less room than thicker line would.

Now if you are talking flip lines when on spurs, bigger is better and stiff enough to flip well. Two totally different tools in my mind.
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Right on. That is the majority of my lanyard use, SRS positioning and backup while moving around in trees.

I had break tests done on a fresh piece of 10mm Sirius Reep Schnur. One of the tests failed it at 2900 lbs. That's when I switched to 9mm PMI EZ-bend for my Hook line/lanyard.

For my regular 15' lanyard I prefer an 11mm double-braid arb line. Reep Schnur will work as a lanyard but as @SeanRuel mentioned, too loose a braid. For me not a good choice for a lanyard.
-AJ
 
Matias said:
Whatever floats your boats I guess. I hear you guys on the non primary nature of the thing, and am not thinking of it as a flipline. I can see it being useable, but after getting an 8mm line for my 5:1 system, I just don't see it making enough difference for me to care about bulk. I probably climb gorilla style compared to some folks being like spider monkeys, but I get around just fine with a bullrope bag on my belt, even in relatively tight quarters. I am sure I will continue streamlining, so we'll see. Maybe I'll understand one day.
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You climb with a rope bag on your harness? Seems really bulky. Definitely wouldn’t float my boat…more like sink it hahaha
 
Quintanana said:
You climb with a rope bag on your harness? Seems really bulky. Definitely wouldn’t float my boat…more like sink it hahaha
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Hardly ever, but sometimes I prefer it to moving my tail constantly. I don't enjoy it, but it feels easier than the alternative.
 
moss said:
Right on. That is the majority of my lanyard use, SRS positioning and backup while moving around in trees.

I had break tests done on a fresh piece of 10mm Sirius Reep Schnur. One of the tests failed it at 2900 lbs. That's when I switched to 9mm PMI EZ-bend for my Hook line/lanyard.

For my regular 15' lanyard I prefer an 11mm double-braid arb line. Reep Schnur will work as a lanyard but as @SeanRuel mentioned, too loose a braid. For me not a good choice for a lanyard.
-AJ
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Reep on a lanyard was awful to me. Had some made up years ago. Just my usual 9fters. They just got beat up from rough hard bark. Now R.I.N.G. is indistructable as is KM3max. I can name many more but those are my last selections. Tight durable covers.
 
moss said:
... I had break tests done on a fresh piece of 10mm Sirius Reep Schnur. One of the tests failed it at 2900 lbs. That's when I switched to 9mm PMI EZ-bend for my Hook line/lanyard...
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Andrew, I know you posted on this at the time but I don't remember the specifics of your testing. Could you please refresh my memory.

I just did a quick search on Reep Schnur and couldn't find any other reports of it failing so far below the manufacturers rating of 5100lbs. Seems if this was an issue something would have shown up by now, no?
 
DSMc said:
Andrew, I know you posted on this at the time but I don't remember the specifics of your testing. Could you please refresh my memory.

I just did a quick search on Reep Schnur and couldn't find any other reports of it failing so far below the manufacturers rating of 5100lbs. Seems if this was an issue something would have shown up by now, no?
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I'll have to dig it up. Richard Mumford did the breaks on his test bed. The line was lightly used so it was not brand new but was very fresh. I don't know how long it was on a reel at Shelter Tree when I bought it by the foot. So many possible variables causing this result. I posted it here but did not report it to Teufleberger. Breaking in that range would not likely cause a fail for anyone using it as a lanyard. With Captain Hook use for traversing the loads could potentially be much greater than with regular positioning lanyard use. At any rate it made me uncomfortable for use with my hook. I moved on.

I'm thinking that the reason you're not seeing numbers like that online is that no one (besides the manufacturer) is break testing it and no one is breaking it in actual use. It would be difficult to break it at 2900 lbs in arb use.
-AJ
 
Interesting, AJ. The thing that bothers me is that it has a Z133 rating that is based on a much higher breaking strength. It is not uncommon for manufacturers to test rated products more than once a year. Just seems to me if Richard's test wasn't just an anomaly, such a discrepancy would have shown up at the factory by now.
 
DSMc said:
Interesting, AJ. The thing that bothers me is that it has a Z133 rating that is based on a much higher breaking strength. It is not uncommon for manufacturers to test rated products more than once a year. Just seems to me if Richard's test wasn't just an anomaly, such a discrepancy would have shown up at the factory by now.
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I agree. Maybe someone else will chime in with further comments on that. Thx
 
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