New device from ISC

Aerial Traveler said:
Looks like a self-aware user could try using a regular rope wrench and split tail tether with the device.

"That swivel connection doesn't seem too crazy." said someone who likes swivels.
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A) that can be said of all devices, right?

B) there are people who don't like swivels? ;)
 
Hanging my life off a mechanism with no inherent self redundancy gives me a warm fuzzy feeling :)

Example - biner has inherent U structure, load bearing gate, self convoluting detachment path so it gets a "good"

A swivel usually has a single element somewhere bearing all the load - less good IMO

At one time I was a licensee of a patent where I was co-inventor. Nothing but an invitation to hassle. Even worse yet was me authoring the patent - holy pita! Worse than a peer reviewed paper.

RW is bread and butter in many devices. kudos to Kevin. The chicanery is a high drag variant
 
That video shows and gives a lot more more detail than the ADHD quick-cut videos up to this point, that's nice.

That 'friction chain' when pressed from the top sure looks sensitive, thought probably behaves differently when actually weighted. Obviously he's showing you are supposed to sort of grab the whole thing (don't pinch your gloves...) but it does make me wonder about it getting caught on a branch leading to an unexpected drop depending on how sensitive it winds up being.

I'm mostly curious about running it solo verses with a wrench above it, as it seems like those two options will behave very differently. All previous devices I'm familiar with are designed to work one way or the other, not both.
 
27RMT0N said:
That video shows and gives a lot more more detail than the ADHD quick-cut videos up to this point, that's nice.

That 'friction chain' when pressed from the top sure looks sensitive, thought probably behaves differently when actually weighted. Obviously he's showing you are supposed to sort of grab the whole thing (don't pinch your gloves...) but it does make me wonder about it getting caught on a branch leading to an unexpected drop depending on how sensitive it winds up being.

I'm mostly curious about running it solo verses with a wrench above it, as it seems like those two options will behave very differently. All previous devices I'm familiar with are designed to work one way or the other, not both.
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A wrench would certainly help reduce the probability of unexpected drops from branch contact. Will be interesting to see how it tests with drops. I think it was Richard Mumford who has a video of the Unicender (years ago) hitting it from above and showing it grabbing quickly again. Will this do the same?
 
It probably would grab again quickly. My limited experience with mechanicals has me thinking it could be touchy and grabbing with the whole hand helps moderate.
Sounds like the links are basically the trigger to a slipping cam.
I never could get the uni to work with me. The squeeze mode worked great on ddrt but on single it took ALOT of force to break and once it broke the jump to descent was quick and hard to moderate. In wrap mode with the Mumford mod I still had to push slack into it. Got frustrated and gave up.
Adding the wrench would probably take the sensitivity away, but didnt the guy suggest the opposite? Saying it’s better for fast descents and swings with the apex?

I’m starting to think of this as a hitchhiker type of device where wraps and links are analogous.
 
evo said:
It probably would grab again quickly. My limited experience with mechanicals has me thinking it could be touchy and grabbing with the whole hand helps moderate.
Sounds like the links are basically the trigger to a slipping cam.
I never could get the uni to work with me. The squeeze mode worked great on ddrt but on single it took ALOT of force to break and once it broke the jump to descent was quick and hard to moderate. In wrap mode with the Mumford mod I still had to push slack into it. Got frustrated and gave up.
Adding the wrench would probably take the sensitivity away, but didnt the guy suggest the opposite? Saying it’s better for fast descents and swings with the apex?

I’m starting to think of this as a hitchhiker type of device where wraps and links are analogous.
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It is more like a Hitch Hiker.
 
evo said:
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Adding the wrench would probably take the sensitivity away, but didnt the guy suggest the opposite? Saying it’s better for fast descents and swings with the apex?
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I took that to mean you have more control with the Apex/wrench?
 
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A mechanical anecdote. When I first used my Grillon near horizontal DRT lanyard it was awesome how easy it released. I got more adventurous and loaded it heavier 45 deg DRT and the release was harder. Full vertical DRT mini climb mode and it was pita release. SRT use in the same three scenarios was just again that much harder to release. Guess the point I'm making is hand control is generally a fraction of applied load and hence taking a DRT oriented device to unassisted SRT makes it harder to operate, IMO expectedly. Same basic thing applies to hitches. What fraction of the applied load your hand needs to apply ie small amount is what makes a device/system like a sports car vs a non-power-steering armstrong special. IIRC DRT load is typically about 40 to 45% of SRT load.
 
Bart I like this comment - had the same experience when I used a Grillon/ Captain on Tachyon in swing city to an adjacent tree. Wasn't as smooth as lanyard but didn't lock up like a hitch did (did get harder with increasingly flatter rope angles and therefore load and (sigh) sap). This "load distribution" is one of the reasons I still really like, and go back to, my old ZZ with leather cambium saver - smooth action, no sore hands and inch by inch control even fully loaded. A pulley topside will put more of the load yet onto the zaggy bits. Also still like the Arbsession hitchnut for hitch climbing.
 
We are truly living in unprecedented times. How many new device releases is that this year? 4? (Akimbo 2, Blackbird, Throttle, Reflex) Was the Vertec this year or last? Either way we're being spoiled and we still have Reg's device on the horizon.
 
Boomslang said:
We are truly living in unprecedented times. How many new device releases is that this year? 4? (Akimbo 2, Blackbird, Throttle, Reflex) Was the Vertec this year or last? Either way we're being spoiled and we still have Reg's device on the horizon.
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Self adjusting friction is a huge boon with the Reflex. Another is the cue taken from DMM's Eccentric pulley. While not as pronounced as the Eccentric, the Reflex allows the rope to fairlead into the device, from any angle, with minimum friction. This can't be said for any other mechanical on the market and I bet a thousand dollars that Reg's one is the same.
Pulling out slack in a straight line is one thing. Descending in three dimensions requires a 270 degree gentle bend radius at the bottom of the device.
 
SoftBankHawks said:
Self adjusting friction is a huge boon with the Reflex. Another is the cue taken from DMM's Eccentric pulley. While not as pronounced as the Eccentric, the Reflex allows the rope to fairlead into the device, from any angle, with minimum friction. This can't be said for any other mechanical on the market and I bet a thousand dollars that Reg's one is the same.
Pulling out slack in a straight line is one thing. Descending in three dimensions requires a 270 degree gentle bend radius at the bottom of the device.
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Does this device have a similar feel and responsiveness in both SRS and MRS? I have found that certain devices that really shine at SRS can be unbearable sluggish in MRS.

I also want to thank you and tell you how incredible helpful your experience and insights have been concerning the Reflex.
 
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