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Saw on the news this morning FEMA only has 1200 bodies to respond to Florida.
Is that enough? I don’t know…
 
ATH said:
Open season for political posts in tree-related threads?
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Not very relevant.

I will say national guard grounded their copters first 4 days here. And no one, even our elected officials, are impressed with FEMA response. We have done so much recovery on our own and will continue to rely more on our own communities and expect less of our government.
 
Stumpsprouts said:
Not very relevant.

I will say national guard grounded their copters first 4 days here. And no one, even our elected officials, are impressed with FEMA response. We have done so much recovery on our own and will continue to rely more on our own communities and expect less of our government.
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What bullshit! I keep getting these FEMA fact check links, sounds like they are putting most their energy into PR and not providing..
 
Matias said:
I had already starting planning my move to California in late 2004, but it took me a year to make all the preparations, which had me living in Palm Beach County through til Christmas of 2005. That hurricane season had me wondering how much longer people would stay there before the population generally started to move away and stop rebuilding that abomination. The history of Florida is really fucked up, and most of where people live now used to be uninhabitable; basically all wetlands. The first peoples of Florida never bothered to built permanent structures because hurricanes would inevitably destroy them,
much like the early attempts at building in Californias central valley, where storms would come every 15-25 years and flood the valley under 10-20 feet of water.

Both places, and many others where millions of people live where effectively "created" by the federal bureau of reclamation. There are so many places that will suffer exponentially more than others because they were built in places where it was never safe to build. They try to dredge out canals and build dams, but they are all built as cheaply as possible by the lowest bidders.

I don't know what the point of saying all this is, but I worry about the millions upon millions of people who are all one major disaster away from having their entire life turned upside down.
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Ain't that the truth. That east coast is about to get a reality check.
 
islandarb said:
Ain't that the truth. That east coast is about to get a reality check.
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It's everywhere. Most dams cause serious ecological damage, killing rivers and wetlands, which leads to desertification, which starts a deeper negative feedback loop with myriad consequences. Cutting canals, draining and dredging are more noticably and immediately destructive. Deforestation and mining, and destructive agricultural systems... We need to clean up our act or Pachamama will clean herself of us.
 
I really hope it downgrades for those folk that stay. However, a lot of my friends on about climate change and electric vehicles. All I can say is greed and bad decisions have let the proverbial horse out the stable. Will be very difficult going forward for future genetations. How do we get land back to it's natural state.
 
islandarb said:
I really hope it downgrades for those folk that stay. However, a lot of my friends on about climate change and electric vehicles. All I can say is greed and bad decisions have let the proverbial horse out the stable. Will be very difficult going forward for future genetations. How do we get land back to it's natural state.
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There's no going back. We have to figure out the best way to move forward.
 
Well I'm back. Was an absolute disaster for me personally. On the plus side I delivered some PPE to @Stumpsprouts via Jeff Inman. Chaps, helmets, eye pro, ear pro. I couldn't get any traction with anybody corporate. Guess too many sponsored rockstars take up their news feeds. Interesting about WESSPUR because my best buddy is NGD. Maybe they just needed a more central clearing house for stuff. Doesn't matter how it happens, just as long as it does. It was pretty much a mess down there. I spent more time in areas when're the homeowners were inconvenienced rather than devastated. Not due to damage but economic status. Guess thats the nature of subbing for a major company. Anyway very disappointed to have to come home without making nearly the positive impact I had hoped. Thats the big picture. In my own little bubble I have yet to even estimate the financial impact that exercise in personal growth will have on the biz. Long story short. Crane went down on the top of a mountain, boom over the house with outriggers in the street on a hairpin turn. Sat on the side of a mountain for a day and a half before a long distance repair crew showed up with an auxiliary hydraulic pump to get me off site. At which point the contractor I was working for had already replaced me and told me to go home. (not that it matters because I'm still broken) Left the site, drove and hour to collect my stuff and then drove 9 hours home. Got home about 3am and then brought the crane to Maryland for repairs yesterday. No news yet but its probably gonna be down for 3-4 weeks or more. I'm trying very hard to look at the world view here. I'm certainly very luck compared to the people I was trying to serve in the storm path. Keeping that perspective is a challenge as the thought of falling flat on my face in the middle of one of the biggest coordinated storm responses in my lifetime follows me around poking me in the back of the head over and over. Not trying to be the victim here but not feeling like it was supposed to work out this way. This year has been rough. I didn't have this on my jeopardy categories. Had bargained on win falling into my lap. My life ring was a sponge. I don't need responses. Just updating the situation. I'll leave the thread to important conversations about how people can help. @Tom Dunlap I had a lot of conversations with AGMax years ago when they were first building the HELO platform for the saws. I was never able to get anyone to give me a ride to watch it work though. Just some tech info and some PR at expo.
 
Well Steve if you're looking for a "positive", when I first read this: "Long story short. Crane went down on the top of a mountain, boom over the house ..." I thought you meant the crane tipped over! Soooo... At least you just have some repairs to the crane and don't have to find somebody to take it off of a house!

In all seriousness though, rest easy at night knowing you did the right thing showing up to help. The right thing doesn't always work out immediately (or sometimes ever). But it is still the right thing and that's where you were!
 
I am so sorry it shook out like that for you Steve. What a friggen bummer. I appreciate that you were here trying to make things better around here.

We are out of the chicken with heads cut off phase, where you’re wondering if you should help with search and rescue or clearing a road of a huge tree. Now it’s mostly trees on houses, and trees hung up or partially uprooted. Company I work for has been doing insurance jobs, turns out charging about half what the average folks charge, oops, and homeowners all taking it in stride and everyone I talk to who had a tree fall on their house says they’re lucky. Which they are. Work has been challenging but in a good way. Also connected with a group of volunteers who are doing pro bono work, that’s getting more organized and feels good to help out there.

The grassroots organizing around here has been unreal. So proud of the people who live here. Still, a long fucking road ahead.
 
Stumpsprouts said:
I am so sorry it shook out like that for you Steve. What a friggen bummer. I appreciate that you were here trying to make things better around here.

We are out of the chicken with heads cut off phase, where you’re wondering if you should help with search and rescue or clearing a road of a huge tree. Now it’s mostly trees on houses, and trees hung up or partially uprooted. Company I work for has been doing insurance jobs, turns out charging about half what the average folks charge, oops, and homeowners all taking it in stride and everyone I talk to who had a tree fall on their house says they’re lucky. Which they are. Work has been challenging but in a good way. Also connected with a group of volunteers who are doing pro bono work, that’s getting more organized and feels good to help out there.

The grassroots organizing around here has been unreal. So proud of the people who live here. Still, a long fucking road ahead.
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Six years since the Camp fire, and we are waiting on funding for the last 11,000 trees that need to be cut. Last of four stages. People are moving back up there too! Asheville was worth 10x as much or more, you guys'll probably get it done 3x faster.
 
A few friends and I have been making trips from east TN to western NC to deliver supplies and do pro bono tree work, there's definitely tons of folks who couldn't pay for shit before the storm who need help in a baaaaad way. We just finished up at a trailer park where nearly every trailer has significant damage. This one was still occupied
 

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