Conspiracy Theories

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Humans are wired for conspiracy detection, that could be helpful in a hunter/gatherer culture where you're worried that your younger cousin is plotting to take over your tribal chief position. In modern society the conspiracy possibilities are so vast that any one individual cannot process the "signals" effectively. As a result if we dig into that particular anxiety there's a big box store worth of choices available. We've been outpaced by our population growth and technological expertise, our brain evolution hasn't had enough thousands of years to catch up from our well-honed tribal brain.

Putting evolutionary development aside there are so many obvious and serious problems right in front of us without needing to turn over logs to find them. I prefer to focus on that instead of listening to self-appointed experts on youtube.
-AJ
Either that or maybe human beings were genetically engineered by aliens to act as a slave race to mine gold and we've been being played by these beings of higher intelligence ever since..
 
Ya, I know about Paperclip, and the CIA sex slave experiments, MK Ultra and many others. Learned a lot from Bo Gritz's book, CALLED TO SERVE in 92. He mentioned the Congressional report on POWs in many of his speeches. I ordered it at the time... mind blowing.. the Russians took 25,000 US prisoners from the German POW camps straight back to the Russian gulags after WW II.. those men never came home. And the US government also abandoned many POWs after WW I... Then there is Korea and Vietnam. I forget the numbers but it was a real wake-up call to how little the government cares about soldiers. They were left to suffer imprisonment till death.

Do you remember when the Soviet Union split up and the Russians offered to return all the American prisoners in their gulags? That was right after I read that Congressional report. The US sent a representative over right away only to come up with the story that there were no US prisoners, only some Finns that had US sounding names. If you fell for that crap, you probably think Oswald acted alone and 911 was pulled off with boxcutters.

After reading Gritz's book, I literally was so upset that I didn't sleep for a week, and then promised myself I would never again be surprised by any evil thing that the US government would ever do. That was my deprogramming from all the mind control and brainwashing of my youth. If you haven't been through that de-programming, which is very disquieting, then you are still under the influence. If you have been deprogrammed, you KNOW IT.


So, your Grandpa was OSS. That's a trip. It's becoming clear that the intelligence agencies are out of control...
Professor Sachs sums it up well here:

If you're ready for it , check out Mark Passio's lecture on Natural Law... I listen at 1.75x speed because he talks pretty slowly.
3 parts:



I'm super familiar with Mark. His stuff makes total sense to me.
 
Was anyone here really surprised when Snowden revealed the level of government surveillance? If you were, then you've been duped.. How about WMDs.. did the fact that they never existed surprise you when it came to light? Did you know that the "plane" that hit the pentagon on 911, actually hit the accounting department the day after Donald Rumsfeld announced that the DOD was missing over 1 trillion dollars? What ever happened to John Doe number 2 after the Oklahoma City bombing? Have you ever seen a list of the enemies of the Clintons and Bushes who ended up dead? How does a person commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head twice? How come it's going to take the Chinese 20+ years to get a manned mission to the moon which they announced around 2015 if the US could do it in 8 years on 1960s technology? Did you know the Mohawk name for George Washington is "He Who Destroys Villages". Do you think it's possible that all the native knowledge about the use of medical herbs came from their ability to talk to plants? Have you ever witnessed a miracle?
Snowjob- Controlled apposition. They love to dangle the carrot.
 
Either that or maybe human beings were genetically engineered by aliens to act as a slave race to mine gold and we've been being played by these beings of higher intelligence ever since..

I thought you were being sarcastic! Apparently though the alien project has been a total failure, heads will roll back on Planet X, if they have heads. Oh shoot, Elon Musk is the alien leader? We're screwed.
-AJ
 
The design, control, and manipulation of the fiat money system, beginning in 1913 with Jekyll Island and the institution of personal income tax, through Bretton Woods and later the Petro-dollar system, is one of the single greatest open conspiracies ever devised. The ability of the US to print near infinite amounts of world reserve currency, exporting iou's in exchange for real goods, allowing them to control the fate of billions in foreign countries, is a power never before seen. Masters of the Universe. The end of the Fiat system was foreseen in the early 70's by the Technocrats, who have been devising a resource-based economic system ever since, biding their time, waiting for the technology to catch up to their needs. It has finally caught up. 2020 was but a small glimpse behind the veil of what is coming.
 
Let me think about it. I'm not gonna reinvent the wheel so If its already been told very well, I'll just share what I've found.
Steve ?
Hey , There is no pressures .
People sometimes , or for entire life time People are forced to wear tinted sunglasses to see things in different colors or see every events in life with that . We are so accustom to it we need to be introduced or informed to see completely different angles or completely take off those pair of glasses to see what's real. And for most of people it feels more comfortable for them not to know what's real .
I was at restaurant restroom other day. An father trying to teach his two kids to go public bathroom. Possibly around 6 years and 4 years old.
The kids are screaming for help . Saying " I don't wanna get flush down ! Nooo ! I don't wanna die ! "
I was cracking up hearing how those kids are so dead serious screaming for help that they might gonna die just to go into that restroom . Their dad was telling them " Then how you go to restroom then ? " " How you go pee pee? " I reflected myself when I was very young then realized that those kids are used to do their job only at home. If they accepted to go to nasty scary public restrooms then they feel like themselves being violated .
Everything is comfortable and perfect in their house and that's how they brought up... they accustom to it . Then all of sudden they are going to be introduced some real reality of some nasty public bathroom . LoL it's hard to accept . Also , I'm not even forcing anyone to accept some hard truth or so called Conspiracies.
It could be right and it could be completely off from the truth .
It's all wrapped with in a bag of Conspiracies.
But it is a good training to have bit of space to see things out of the box that's for sure.
When I had a discussions and being questioned and being asked me to help our Govs up there and being informed some of the things were completely different what I've been tought in schools or see and heard in news were literally mind blowing & my foundations of normal has been destroyed from at that moment but I hid my emotions completely and needs to deal with it because I was Infront of super VIPs of this country and not only that, there are some another groups of people who wants to put their plans into the table. They were planning things for next 50 to 100 years of mind bending completely out of mind things that which there is no way what they are saying are going to be or do as in reality ... Seriously , half the time I thought ..." C'mon .. Give me a break... they must be joking coz if that's they wants that in a future then people in this world go insane .... How they gonna explain those to the people with streight face ? " and when I found out later on that things really go down as they were taking ? And billions of people on this country and on this planet gets really involved ? I felt "Wow ... I am crossing over to the other side ...this is diabolical ...this must be a worst dream of dream ... a continuous nightmare.. a nightmare that isn't even a dream ... and can't even wake up from it ... " that's what I thought first . And many people dead serious and believing as what they experiencing is the truth ... then I solidified my stance for it. The things Ive witnessed up there and soon to be happened are completely out of my control and I just have to live with it . If I did utilize what Ive experienced for my benefits then that would be like betraying the regular people in this real world . I do know a lot but I'm not the guy who is holding a book of Almanac and using for my benefits here.
And also for my safety I just have to decide to deals with it like being in a movie "the back to the future" as long as I don't interact with the things how they are and keep its secrets then I'll be alright . See and feel them just as they wants us to be & do so I won't get into any troubles . So I let it happen as they are which & what & how we all see things here . They kind a put me in a position of like snake trying to swallow it's tail really .. it's sick and stupid. Really. ... I even don't know how I'm dealing and coping with all of them but I'm doing it. So I tell you all . There are many things that they planned as events and they know exactly how it's gonna creates chain of events and it's chain reactions . And regular people take it as just some serious events that occured. Good or Super bad. And later on , some smart and intuitive people really did find out the truth or some of them are just partially right with wrong ... And they are all thrown into the one bucket called conspiracy theories .
so I would like to hear your take of some of the things that you think that's True.
 
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The Donald Trumps, the Alex Jones', Fox , the Tucker Carlsons and the rest of conspiracy people have enlightened the world as to just how many weak-minded people are really among us, and it explains a lot of what is going on in our society these days. It's scary and I am glad that I am as old as I am so I don't have to be around to see what havoc these nut cases are going to instill on humanity in the years to come. They won't believe what is said on the news but put it in a book or on some idiot's podcast and they soak it right up.
 
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The Donald Trumps, the Alex Jones', The Fox News', the Tucker Carlsons and the rest of conspiracy people have enlightened the world as to just how many weak-minded people are really among us, and it explains a lot of what is going on in our society these days. It's scary and I am glad that I am as old as I am so I don't have to be around to see what havoc these nut cases are going to instill on humanity in the years to come.
Mmmm.... According with my memories and comparisons with what I know ... Some of the things that those people you've mentioned told truth or partially truth to us.
I must agreee some people are very intuitive to find out what.

But they've also failed miserably too ...

When it comes to that I'm like biting my fingers and watching mouse trying to find out the correct route which is truth of the things with in a enormous maze that they ( people up there ) who laid out .
 
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Donald Trumps, the Alex Jones', The Fox News', the Tucker Carlsons
That is a very eclectic group. I don't think they have conspiracy theories in common.

One is former president and the front runner in the next presidential election.

Alex Jones is undoubtedly a conspiracy theorist and a journalist.

Fox News is a corporate main stream media company.

And Tucker Carlson was fired(?) by Fox News and is emerging as one of the most significant journalists of our age.
 
That is a very eclectic group. I don't think they have conspiracy theories in common.

One is former president and the front runner in the next presidential election.

Alex Jones is undoubtedly a conspiracy theorist and a journalist.

Fox News is a corporate main stream media company.

And Tucker Carlson was fired(?) by Fox News and is emerging as one of the most significant journalists of our age.
I rest my case.
 
That is a very eclectic group. I don't think they have conspiracy theories in common.

One is former president and the front runner in the next presidential election.

Alex Jones is undoubtedly a conspiracy theorist and a journalist.

Fox News is a corporate main stream media company.

And Tucker Carlson was fired(?) by Fox News and is emerging as one of the most significant journalists of our age.
Fox news from Wikipedia

The channel was created by Australian-American media mogul Rupert Murdoch in 1996 to appeal to a conservative audience, hiring former Republican media consultant and CNBC executive Roger Ailes as its founding CEO.[12][13] It launched on October 7, 1996, to 17 million cable subscribers.[14] Fox News grew during the late 1990s and 2000s to become the dominant United States cable news subscription network.[15] By September 2018, 87 million U.S. households (91 percent of television subscribers) could receive Fox News.[16] In 2019, it was the top-rated cable network, averaging 2.5 million viewers in prime time.[17][18][19] As of April 2022, Murdoch is the executive chairman since 2016,[20][21] and Suzanne Scott has been the CEO since 2018.[22]

Fox News controversies have included biased reporting in favor of the Republican Party, its politicians, and conservative causes,[23][24][25] while portraying the Democratic Party in a negative light.[26][27] Critics have argued that the channel is damaging to the integrity of news overall.[28][29] In 2009, Fox News denied bias in its news reporting. The channel's official position was that its reporting operates independently of its opinion journalism.[30][needs update]
 
That is a very eclectic group. I don't think they have conspiracy theories in common.

One is former president and the front runner in the next presidential election.

Alex Jones is undoubtedly a conspiracy theorist and a journalist.

Fox News is a corporate main stream media company.

And Tucker Carlson was fired(?) by Fox News and is emerging as one of the most significant journalists of our age.

I think the term "journalist" is being used a bit loosely here ;-) If journalist is removed from your descriptions above, you're much closer to describing these professional entertainers.
-AJ
 
The Donald Trumps, the Alex Jones', The Fox News', the Tucker Carlsons and the rest of conspiracy people have enlightened the world as to just how many weak-minded people are really among us, and it explains a lot of what is going on in our society these days. It's scary and I am glad that I am as old as I am so I don't have to be around to see what havoc these nut cases are going to instill on humanity in the years to come. They won't believe what is said on the news but put it in a book or on some idiot's podcast and they soak it right up.
Not picking or pushing back. We all have our own beliefs and opinions. The 2 party paradigm is such an easy means to put people into a box and insult them by calling them weak minded, nut cases or idiot. I personally would never call anyone who had a differing opinion an insulting name or assign a pejorative. I still believe and come from a place where we treat people with respect even if we disagree until they directly disrespect us. To play devils advocate, because you and I have differing opinions I guess we cant be respectful, cordial, friendly, or civil. We need to call each other names and we can only avoid that if I agree with you entirely. That seems to be counterproductive to a civil society in which people can debate and discuss without getting into a Coke or Pepsi fight. Having us so intensely divided could be a benefit to the destruction of society and a symptom of the greater problem. Why is the Trivium no longer taught in schools? It destroys the tools of civil debate and discussion. It puts people in a place where they can only agree with one side or be ridiculed. This is why I was so reluctant to post. To share an opinion on an open forum where people are encouraged to share openly and treat each other respectfully as adults, only to be insulted by someone who doesn't even know me, whom I've always treated with respect, and who has shown I'm the enemy if I have a differing opinion. BTW I've never listened to Alex Jones and I think Fucker Carlson is a limited hangout. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree and Old Dick was a platform for the state from way back. I don't watch Fox or MSM. I don't support either party. I don't think the Presidential Selection will ever give us the hero we are all told we'll get the next election. I don't fit your mold based on your interpretation of my thinking. I will continue to treat you with respect, as I always have and I wouldn't call you names because we disagree. Again, not calling you out but after about 20 years on this site, having conducted myself respectfully and not antagonistic, I see how even this site, though not as soiled as other social media sites has regressed to a point where we lack the civility once present in our interactions. I stayed off the COVID thread on here because I knew it would be bad. I shoulda left this one aloe also. You all can believe what you want. Don't insult me for what I believe in. We should judge on actions not thoughts as we don't know what the other person knows. Sorry, this has really tweaked a nerve for me this morning. I'm tired, and tired of..... Not once did I try to convince anyone on here they are wrong, nor call you names for what you believe. Jesus people, have some fucking respect for your fellow person. If they disrespect you then kick the shit out of them but until then.........
 
Fox news from Wikipedia

The channel was created by Australian-American media mogul Rupert Murdoch in 1996 to appeal to a conservative audience, hiring former Republican media consultant and CNBC executive Roger Ailes as its founding CEO.[12][13] It launched on October 7, 1996, to 17 million cable subscribers.[14] Fox News grew during the late 1990s and 2000s to become the dominant United States cable news subscription network.[15] By September 2018, 87 million U.S. households (91 percent of television subscribers) could receive Fox News.[16] In 2019, it was the top-rated cable network, averaging 2.5 million viewers in prime time.[17][18][19] As of April 2022, Murdoch is the executive chairman since 2016,[20][21] and Suzanne Scott has been the CEO since 2018.[22]

Fox News controversies have included biased reporting in favor of the Republican Party, its politicians, and conservative causes,[23][24][25] while portraying the Democratic Party in a negative light.[26][27] Critics have argued that the channel is damaging to the integrity of news overall.[28][29] In 2009, Fox News denied bias in its news reporting. The channel's official position was that its reporting operates independently of its opinion journalism.[30][needs update]
 
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