treegongfu
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Are the seven deadly sins applicable to tree work and if so, in what way?
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Its not for me to answer for God.. me personally No I don't wonder why you "want no part of this gibberish"... I wonder why your here to chat on internet about something you say you don't believe in , i think a little piece might look around at Gods creation that you see and live in and are thinking... maybe...
To me, my life I've learned God is good all the time and all the time God is good. I've had plenty of my own share of hard times i think i didnt deserve at the time and committed plenty of sinful acts... God gave mankind freewill in this world. So do how you want , think what you want , Maybe saying small minded was offensive to you , im sorry i said that cause i don't think that's right, from what i can tell your all very intelligent and have knowledge beyond mine, but I think I see some are wrestling with their faith and journey in life, that's why they visit a thread Climber For Christ. It's cool,, Do you, were not bad folks at least on this forum sitting here from what I see I love everyone on here , even though the feelings may not be mutual and thats OK by me. I have as many atheist friends as believers in my life away from the internet, so your not gonna offend me or shake my faith in God. Being a follower of Christ is tough and enduring hardship and tough times happen to all people, so no I don't think it brought Doc joy what happened to merle.. maybe God helped his pain , helped him grow as an individual human being , just trying to live his life and endure the hardness this world can send on anyone. I believe he's up in Heaven with Merle right now picking a tune!
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Pride: underbidding
Greed: overbidding
Wrath: smashing the truck loading logs with the mini
Envy: Wishing you had decent PTO and vacation and a six figure paycheck like the client you work for who doesn’t break his back and risk his life for a livin
Lust: your Arbsession shopping cart
Gluttony: Actually buying everything in your shopping cart
Sloth: how slow you’ll move in the tree because you’ll spend the entire next few weeks talking about your new fancy gear and figuring out how to use it
So your god gave man “free will”. Did the not have the forthought to understand the possible ramifications of this? Murder, rape, war, incest, genocide, slavery, the annihilation of mother earth, etc. From where I’m sitting it appears that he is really bad at his job, and/or he is one sadistic puppy…
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Genesis 3: 1-24
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This thread just looks like fun haha. I was raised in a culturally and educationally Catholic setting. My dad was literally raised to be a priest from birth but the corruption he observed within while in the seminary in college lead him towards becoming a therapist and helping people without religious guidance. My two best friends were mormans and completely abandoned from their family/community after they strayed from the church. My sister in law is apparently johovahs witness now, she has several vices and lacks community so I see the allure but sad to see her disassociate from loving family.
Idk I feel like religions are like people, they can do both good and bad in the world. What really bugs me is when any religion, group, cult, tribe etc uses their power and money to influence politics or push and brainwash ideologies on people (especially children). Where there's money, there's corruption.. For me, I see value in religious text as in all history books but do not take any of it literally. We don't know wtf we're doing or where we're going on this planet but I'm grateful for the experience and try to cultivate love in our community/family. I'm perfectly happy to die and let my energy continue as it breaks down and feeds other organisms in the cycle of life. If I have a soul and it wants to linger or go somewhere that's cool too.. Religious, atheist, agnostic etc people can all be incredibly corrupt and hateful, or kind and loving, people are people and we all have our life's journey.
Idk I feel like religions are like people, they can do both good and bad in the world. What really bugs me is when any religion, group, cult, tribe etc uses their power and money to influence politics or push and brainwash ideologies on people (especially children). Where there's money, there's corruption.. For me, I see value in religious text as in all history books but do not take any of it literally. We don't know wtf we're doing or where we're going on this planet but I'm grateful for the experience and try to cultivate love in our community/family. I'm perfectly happy to die and let my energy continue as it breaks down and feeds other organisms in the cycle of life. If I have a soul and it wants to linger or go somewhere that's cool too.. Religious, atheist, agnostic etc people can all be incredibly corrupt and hateful, or kind and loving, people are people and we all have our life's journey.
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For all who are willing to share their beliefs, what do you believe about Jesus? Did he exist? If so, who or what was he?
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I think he certainly existed as a person.
Even in the modern day, one person can influence many others, change the direction of history and create a cult like following (perhaps cult is too pejorative a word) Greta Thurnberg, David Icke, Andrew Tate.
As for his real persona, I don’t know.
I’d guess he was a charismatic sort of bloke, with new thinking that matched the zeitgeist of the time.
Even in the modern day, one person can influence many others, change the direction of history and create a cult like following (perhaps cult is too pejorative a word) Greta Thurnberg, David Icke, Andrew Tate.
As for his real persona, I don’t know.
I’d guess he was a charismatic sort of bloke, with new thinking that matched the zeitgeist of the time.
I'd say Jesus is a cross between Siddhartha Gautama and L. Ron Hubbard. All real people; they were charismatic and great storytellers, who's influences exploded beyond what they should have through a combination of idolization and repression.
When you think about it, Scientology's creationist story is no more or less fantastical than Christianity's, yet one is mocked and ridiculed regularly and the other is the largest organized religion in the world. The only outlying factor is time.
When you think about it, Scientology's creationist story is no more or less fantastical than Christianity's, yet one is mocked and ridiculed regularly and the other is the largest organized religion in the world. The only outlying factor is time.
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I don’t know if the dude existed or not. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he did. Not as the son of god and more or less than anything else.
Like most peoples of the time, there were strong oral traditions, and knowledge. Context and subtext emphasized with every sharing of the myth. Which was eventually recorded. I have no reason to disbelieve that he existed, was executed, and even there may be some truth that he was entombed and later awoke.
Why is it unfathomable someone dosed him with digitalis? Everyone thought he was dead, when someone tried to help him with the pain? Later to the wake up and crawl out of the cave?
Hell, they use to tie bells to the dead when the realized how many people were put in the ground alive.
Like most peoples of the time, there were strong oral traditions, and knowledge. Context and subtext emphasized with every sharing of the myth. Which was eventually recorded. I have no reason to disbelieve that he existed, was executed, and even there may be some truth that he was entombed and later awoke.
Why is it unfathomable someone dosed him with digitalis? Everyone thought he was dead, when someone tried to help him with the pain? Later to the wake up and crawl out of the cave?
Hell, they use to tie bells to the dead when the realized how many people were put in the ground alive.
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Good example to not take the bible literally. It's a collection of books written by multiple peeps then mushed together. It's been written, re-written, translated, re-translated, edited, re-edited many times over many generations. By people. Jesus said and I quote:
Matthew 10:10: “Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.”
Mark 6:8: “And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:”
Luke 9:3: “And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.”
I think we can get the gist of his messages without dwelling on details though. It's interesting how Christianity seems to interpret messages differently to match cultural change and keep followers over time. Kind of a good business model.
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Staves apparently is plural for staff, seems the premisal idea here is to take just what you physically need.
Good to see you used the KJV.
Yes, there are some things in the Bible that seem contrary to common sense, but we don’t know all things, and even if we disagree with something, shouldn’t we not dismiss it entirely.
Or, at least try to understand it for what it maybe conveying and/or glean what we can at this time, from it.
The KJV is most similar in transliteration to the original manuscripts of the Bible.
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Why do believers subject themselves to this unending belittlement and subservience? Meanwhile, the Christian Nationalists can't wait to bloody the rest of us in the name of their god. For me, those contradictions are an unhealthy mish-mash of self-deprecation, self-aggrandizement, pompous diminishment of "others," desperation, self-justification, escapism, and confusion.
Lately, I've been watching videos by Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson. The world is more than four billion years old and there are universes beyond our own--these are facts--and we are just lucky to be here. There's no one coming to save us; we are responsible for ourselves and for each other. Period. We'll not be the first or last species to endure or to die off--but it won't be because we did or did not pray. Did our ancestors who saw god in trees and rituals fair any better than those who did not? No, they all became humus.
Sorry, I don't mean to offend, but I am offended when told that I am not an equal entity on this earth--or as a citizen of this country--because I do not pray to YOUR god alone.
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I agree not to dismiss anyone's point of view entirely. I just take things a bit literal and find it silly when people quote "Jesus" as if it were the words that came from his mouth. Basically the oldest game of broken telephone.
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