Roe v Wade overturned

rico said:
Yes I would, because when dealing with wing-nutz like yourself it is some progress..America will never be allowed to become a nation where the victims of rape and incest are force to carry their pregnancies to term. Not gonna fucking happen. Its pure taliban like lunacy.

As i said earlier, you are small majority of an already existing minority so your view of the world is irrelevant to the long term progress and growth of this nation. We the people will right the ship, and a woman right to choice will once again become the law of the land. Why? Because that is what the American people have consistently shown they want...
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So then you must disagree with a lot of pro choice people out there, because many would not sign off on that.
 
rico said:
So our children are being mowed down by guns yet you instantly and continually defend the gun with you copy/paste wingnut nonsense and I’m the mean one? You really are an utterly dishonest individual.
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I'm not defending violence or killing. In fact I would think it is pretty obvious I respect all lives, not just some of them (like those in the womb).

I've said from the very beginning that I just don't feel guns are the problem, the are just the solution people are using. If there were no guns, it would not stop the violence and blood shed. Would there be less deaths? Possibly to probably, but the problem/issues would not be fixed. Plus there is other disadvantages to disarming America.
 
'Force' can manifest itself in many ways.

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'Force' can manifest itself in many ways.

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Constitution doesn't say the church can't be in the state (or religion or values). It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

I would have no problem with a Muslim, Buddist etc coach praying on the field, and letting the students join him/her if they chose. I would have a problem with any of them, or a Christian, requiring it or preventing it or giving special treatment to those that do.

At a public school
 
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or giving special treatment to those that do.
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Then,..what about the opposite? Let's say that someone on the team IS offended by the prayer, opts not to participate and suffers consequences? This is the 'special treatment' or 'force' that is being addressed.

Colin K. would understand what I mean by 'special treatment'
 
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Then,..what about the opposite? Let's say that someone on the team IS offended by the prayer, opts not to participate and suffers consequences? This is the 'special treatment' or 'force' that is being addressed.

Colin K. would understand what I mean by 'special treatment'
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I get offended by things every day and then I put my big boy pant on and get over it. Life isn't fair, and isn't the same for everyone.

I clearly said if someone gets special treatment for attending (better spots etc), then that would be wrong. I'm not sure how that doesn't cover, anti special treatment (consequences)...because that would mean someone is getting special treatment.

Freedom of religion is protected across the board, from Christians or towards Christians (or any variation of religions from one to another). Being offended by another's religion, or their practice off it, is not covered by constitution or law...nor should it be. Now if something they do in that practice, that breaks a law, it should not be allowed (human sacrifice, etc as example)
 
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Most of the time, yes. They seem to make my point much better, and concisely, than what I can say.
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But that last one didn't address anything from my reply to you. Especially since the coach was not doing it during game time, he was his on time.

I'm not sure if the prayer was even out loud...I am guessing at least originally it was not.
 
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Especially since the coach was not doing it during game time, he was his on time.
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Makes no difference. He is employed by the school, is on school property, is the coach, lead the team out onto the field, and is praying...for The Game. He's a Duck.
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I'm not sure if the prayer was even out loud...I am guessing at least originally it was not.
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Makes no difference. He was admittedly leading a prayer for The Game. If a bank robber says they have a gun they will face armed robbery charges even if they don't actually have a gun. Verbal or not...he's acting like a Duck
 
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Makes no difference. He is employed by the school, is on school property, is the coach, lead the team out onto the field, and is praying...for The Game. He's a Duck.


Makes no difference. He was admittedly leading a prayer for The Game. If a bank robber says they have a gun they will face armed robbery charges even if they don't actually have a gun. Verbal or not...he's acting like a Duck
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Hmm what I just read said he was originally doing it before the game in the locker room, but not requiring people to join in or listen. When he was approached about that, he stopped. He then start praying after the game on his own, again not requiring participantion or listening in, and students came and joined him freely.

So he didn't lead anyone. He was acting out his beliefs and religion, which the constitution specifically protects. As I said I wouldn't have a problem with this if it was a Muslim, Buddhist etc. If my Muslim coach did this, I would just go the the end zone and have my own prayer. I would not sue or complain about it, if there were no special treatments.

State can't regulate religion (hence why we have no official religion in America). But neither should it outlaw the practice of religion. This all go back into things I've said in other threads (morals, family structure and support, mental issues etc). You take away all aspects of religion humans lose their moral foundation. It all becomes about them, and what they can get. What is best for them.

Correct the threat of a gun, should be armed robbery.
 
I would curious to know how many of his players joined him, how many did not, and how many wanted him fired because of it?

From what little I have heard majority of the players joined him, and even some from other teams.
 
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