Work with a big dump trailer

canopyking

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So a while ago I made one of those very typical this-or-that type of post about disposal practices, and I put my chips in on a dump trailer. I have had it now for 3 months and want to share how it has gone during that time period.

The trailer is 20'x8'x4' and pulled by an F550.

Access to properties has not been too much an issue. I am in Indianapolis and work primarily in the city, so the spaces are fairly tight, but with a decent driver (patting myself on the back) I can put it where I need it. I also have access to a wheel loader, so worst case scenario we drag with that.

Loading. I would only use a wood mover that has an extension on the arms. It may not be necessary, it could be loaded from the rear, but it would take more work. Loading branches and logs is not a problem with an extension. Biggest logs so far are 36". The biggest trouble by far.....is the amount of slashing needed with canopies. To really maximize capacity, you have to slash A LOT! I mean it damn near requires someone in the trailer at all times (if the work is moving fast). While a chainsaw won't eat you up like a chipper, the likelihood of getting yourself is high. The ground is unstable, the cuts are blind, its very easy to be plunge the bar into the pile with a cut path that is directed towards the cutter (as opposed to plunging and cutting at your side) and with the unstable ground the work is tiring. Also, it absolutely cannot be good on saws. More positives, it hauls a lot! I occasionally have to make a trip to the dump, but not often. It is suitable for most day jobs. Putting huge logs in it, very gratifying.

Disposal. One of the main concerns from my previous post about chipper or chippless hauling had to deal with disposal fees. Basically it sounded like the fees were quite expensive to dump brush and logs. Fortunately the yard I go to the most takes everything 24" and under for free, and charges $50 for a load that has logs over 24". There is another lot, farther away, that takes everything for free, and another lot that charges $200 for anything over 24".


I got the itch for the dump trailer from a crew I contract climb for, they have a grapple truck with a 70 yard bin (mine is about 20). They do not compare. You can't mash with a dump trailer (maybe just a little with the wood mover) since it doesn't have a grapple. And there is something about getting into the super large 70 yard size that requires no slashing. Without a doubt, bigger is better.

There are still times, usually with silver maples or small trees, where I would love to have a chipper.



All in all, for a newer business, it does great, but it's by no means the end-all-be-all of removal systems. But is there a best system???

Hope this is helpful for someone!


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and the before photo of the truck, because.....show and tell! I have no hesitation saying that the trailer hauls more than this chip box.

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Thanks for sharing your experience in changing up your system! I started with a 14-ft dump which we loaded by hand - I have used it again when my chipper went down and I'm reminded how annoying it is to put stuff over the top and how quickly brush fills it up... accompany, I see around town seems to have gone away from chippers in favor of grapple trucks, attractive, if you have the equipment to make it happen .
Treeler is a company that makes a dump trailer with a grapple, also looks interesting as it can provide some downward force but I am guessing not nearly as effective.
you said you use a wood mover... could you explain what this piece of equipment is?

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I started with a dump trailer, and still use it but also will sometimes add a chipper on bigger jobs for increased efficiency.

I think it’s a great piece of equipment, especially for someone starting out who may not be in the market for a whole chip truck combo right off the bat.

You are right about the cutting, that is the key to being able to utilize every inch of space and fitting way more in the trailer than you’d think possible.

We got a pretty good system down when we do bigger jobs and have to process a lot of brush but maybe decided not to bring the chipper in that typically I will be in the dump trailer and my ground person will feed me branches and I dice each one up individually and start by packing the material in the front and then gradually working are way back. Works pretty well. Just maybe a bit more time consuming than a chipper lol.

Nice looking setup though, thanks for sharing!
 
@Joster19 My generic term for either a mini-skid or an articulated wheel loader is a wood mover.

@Daniel I am. How do you think an 8yrd-ish chip box with a chipper would compare with a 20yrd bin and no chipper?

@jip40 It does, since it is a truck and trailer combo with a gvwr over 26K. While its not a professional approach, I am taking the risk of not having a CDL. I am working on that license, just taking my sweet time.
 
@Joster19 My generic term for either a mini-skid or an articulated wheel loader is a wood mover.

@Daniel I am. How do you think an 8yrd-ish chip box with a chipper would compare with a 20yrd bin and no chipper?

@jip40 It does, since it is a truck and trailer combo with a gvwr over 26K. While its not a professional approach, I am taking the risk of not having a CDL. I am working on that license, just taking my sweet time.
Driving with no cdl is a bad idea. In some states if you get in a wreck it's an automatic felony.

We chip brush and haul logs separately. We use a mini skid or mini ex to move wood and feed the chipper. We also have a single axle grapple truck. Chips are fairly easy and usually free to get rid of around here. We are often generating several loads a day worth so we bough a large tandem axle truck with a high capacity box. Brush around here can only go to the dump. At $250 to $300 per grapple truck load that ads up quickly. We have our own wood lot and chip pile but we dont generally bring back any brush uh unless we have a broken chipper. Well chip it later once we get fixed. The grapple truck works much better for squishing brush vs just throwing it in a trailer.
 
I have a 14' dump trailer. I use it for hauling the mini skid, wood, and what I refer to as "shit sticks", the stuff too small and dirty to go through the chipper.
Limbs & branches go through the chipper into the 550 aprox 15 yard box.
Between labour/effort and time I avoid slashing branches in the trailer, it is just inefficient.
I guess I'm fortunate to have 2 trucks, but I would have been shopping for a chipper before removing the chip box and buying the gooseneck dumper can't imagine that was cheap.
But to each their own, glad it's working out for you, thanks for sharing I like seeing unique setups

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Are you saying that you can get more brush in the trailer than you could chip into the chip truck box?
I'm with you on this one I feel like I can get about twice as much brush in my truck chipped vs packing it in, plus it's much faster even with my 9" chipper.
 

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