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I probably should have included a question mark at the end of my post so as not to imply first hand knowledge of the event. Sorry Frax. ;)
 
Frax said:
I let it be. It may live in our garden. It's welcome to.

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I would have not been so kind to that one Nora. We have a gray rat snake that visits yearly over the past 4 years. He was about 14" the first year and is now about 5.5 feet. There is also a king snake around but haven't seen him lately. These two are welcome. When I was in Arkansas I send 13 to snake heaven in an 8 day period. They insisted on taking up residence on my back porch. My wife would have none of it, although I commend her for not leaving permanently.
 
Not likely unless you are compermised health wise... Most of the time they are "dry" bites. Also something like 80%of bites occur on men between the ages of 18 and 30. On hands or fore arms. And the "victim" is intoxicated...
 
I have known several people who have lost fingers, hands and legs due to copperhead bites. Not something I would want for myself or anyone. Also it is my understanding that the antivenom treatments are very expensive and many insurance companies don't cover them.
 
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Yeah that copperhead would have to go if it was in my garden. They don't give you a warning like a rattle snake does. They are pretty aggressive too. Way to easy to not see him and end up injected with toxins.
 
I've walked a lot of Florida woods off trail treating invasive plants, spent a year in the bush in Suriname, and grew up in the mountains in California. Snakes don't go after me and the people I'm with. I've seen a guy straddle a cotton mouth in a wetland where he was wading in 12" water and the snake was in grass 6" above the water. Nothing. I've seen two guys step 6" away from a 6'+ diamondback and it just lay there, chill. I've seen 5' copperhead, countless other diamondback's, cottonmouths, fer-de-lance, Western diamondback, and Mohave green give warnings and not strike unless provoked.

If I had one under my porch I'd do my best to catch and relocate it. I definitely wouldn't just let them hang out there with my dog and son around. It's like trees. If it has a weakness and no target, its not a hazard and I let it be. Snakes in the woods? Let 'em be. Snakes under the porch? Spikeless pruning. :)
 
oldoakman said:
I have known several people who have lost fingers, hands and legs due to copperhead bites. Not something I would want for myself or anyone. Also it is my understanding that the antivenom treatments are very expensive and many insurance companies don't cover them.
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Generally this is due to secondary infection due to necrosis... Hurt like hell? yes! Last I knew antivenom is about 11k a vial not sure about copper heads but a large diamond back can be up to 15+ vials.. Depending if it's horse plasma or sheep allergic reactions are very common, needing more treatment. There are not too many native venoms that can kill a 200 lb mid 20-30year old man. However certianly all should be treated ASAP
 
The world isn't necessarily a safe place. Copperheads are common here. I just pay attention, like I do when I cross the street, and wear appropriate clothing in the woods, which is work clothes - boots, long pants and often gloves.

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In a pinch you can use a car or motorcycle battery and jumper cables to zap a bite area and neutralize the poison. It does work well, if you can get it done shortly after the bite.
 
Treezybreez said:
In a pinch you can use a car or motorcycle battery and jumper cables to zap a bite area and neutralize the poison. It does work well, if you can get it done shortly after the bite.
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I read an article in Outdoor life or Field and stream a long time ago, it said hunters who's dogs were bitten could use jumper cables hooked to the coil wire. Said a stun gun works too. Breaks down the neurotoxins. A friend of mine did this on his dog when it was bitten on the nose by a rattlesnake, with good results.
 
chiselbit said:
I read an article in Outdoor life or Field and stream a long time ago, it said hunters who's dogs were bitten could use jumper cables hooked to the coil wire. Said a stun gun works too. Breaks down the neurotoxins. A friend of mine did this on his dog when it was bitten on the nose by a rattlesnake, with good results.
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I Wonder if grabbing the spark plug on something like these 90cc+ felling saws would work?

Say you are a long ways from a hospital, and it's gonna be a while.
 
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