Stein or Porta-wrap

ctree · Dec 11, 2014

If you were going to own one lowering device and the only 2 choices were the Stein 2000 or the Porta-wrap III, what would you choose?

oldoakman · Dec 11, 2014

Although I've never used it, I like the way the Stein is set up. If I was doing more removals, I would invest in the Stein.

Oroboros · Dec 11, 2014

I just started a few years ago and I went with the stein 1000. I've been very happy with it. Cost a little more but I think the design features are worth it.

JTree · Dec 11, 2014

Stein. 15 seconds more to rig up is worth it not do deal with flop factor.

CutHighnLetFly · Dec 11, 2014

Stein.

limbcontrol · Dec 12, 2014

I believe Stein just came out with a new lowering device that has a winch. heard it was at TCIA but I didn't get to stop at their booth due to see it. Tried searching for info on it but came up empty

Oroboros · Dec 12, 2014

limbcontrol said:
I believe Stein just came out with a new lowering device that has a winch. heard it was at TCIA but I didn't get to stop at their booth due to see it. Tried searching for info on it but came up empty

Here's Reg introducing it.

ctree · Dec 12, 2014

Thanks. Ordered a Stein 2000 today, fit the price range. Saw the rig that Reg had at expo and will work toward that for the future.

Treetopflyer · Dec 12, 2014

JTree said:
Stein. 15 seconds more to rig up is worth it not do deal with flop factor.

I've rigged up a porty with top sling as well to reduce flop.

JeffGu · Dec 12, 2014

Bought the little one last year and like it, RC-2000 will be next one I buy.

JTree · Dec 12, 2014

I'm looking forward to the rcw3000 release. If the price range in the video is correct, then it is just the piece of equipment I've been waiting for. I can't really justify a grcs as of yet.

KevinS · Dec 13, 2014

For removals what are the advantages to the stein? How do they help from a productive point of view?

TimberJack · Dec 13, 2014

The Stein RC series improves rigging productivity by giving you Reg like rigging skills whilst strapped to the bottom of any tree. At least that's what I am hoping for!

islandarb · Dec 13, 2014

Well I am looking forward to the new Stein Lowering Device with the winch....would suit my needs nicely...the price seems manageable at this point for me...

JTree · Dec 13, 2014

KevinS said:
For removals what are the advantages to the stein? How do they help from a productive point of view?

For those of us who either can't find good ground help, or can't always GET the good ground help, whatever makes things easier for them, makes them faster. Most of the time, that is the production bottleneck on site for me, not how fast I can rig the block and make my knote, but how fast they are ready to catch it. If I had awesome, steady, dependable groundies, a portawrap would probably be just as good. I know using a porty isn't rocket science, but it's worth mentioning. Also, there's the 4 fair leads, so you can adjust friction by 1/4 wraps instead of half wraps.

DSMc · Dec 13, 2014

The top attachment point on the RC-1000 and 2000 are a major part of what makes them better than a porty. If you just have a single lead to lower or a couple of quick cuts you may not notice much difference. However if you have a day of rigging ahead of you, the time savings and improved workability of the Stein will become blatantly obvious.

ctree · Dec 19, 2014

We just did our first tree removal with our new Stein 2000 and I will say that it is a great piece of equipment. Just as DSMc said if you have a large tree with lots of rigging its a time saver and is also very user friendly. The top attachment point makes things simply great and if you have rookie groundies it makes teaching them even easier. Big thumbs up!