Splicing up Sloggish eyes

[maarten]

Got to splicing after a while of rest and now encountered a problem i never had before. After the bury the cover of the eye was not tight. Meaning excess cover compared to the core of the eye.

I am making a some what bigger eye, say 10 cm long on a 12mm double braided rope.

After my first unsatisfactory attempt i made a new one.

I then made sure all the measurements where right and took the cover and the core true the right places on the rope.

Working form the crossover down the rope i worked out all the slack on the cover-braid of the eye to be.

Befor starting the bury i put a small strand of rope around the cross over so it would not slip somehow. When starting the bury i milked the rope towards the splice while holding the eye on the standing part of the eye.

The result was somewhat better, still too loose for my liking.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
maarten

 

[John_Hartenburg]

Yep I know exactly what you are talking about.

This does actually have the potential to create an unsafe situation. This is due to the fact that the core AND cover need to work together to maintain the max strength of the rope.

Anyway, I can't go into all the specifics on how to prevent this, or to fix it here because it is more of a visual thing. Basically though if you really "massage" the throat if the splice and then really pull on the eye it will settle in.

That probably doesn't make much sense....but it might help a bit.

 

[John_Hartenburg]

And by massage, I mean some firm wacks with a rubber mallet. And make sure to pull as much cover slack into the throat as you can, that will help as well.

 

[maarten]

[quote : And make sure to pull as much cover slack into the throat as you can, that will help as well.

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Cover slack from the eye or from the length of the rope?

Thanks for the reply things are looking much better already, still have some slack going on tho...

 

[Ron]

maarten,

You may already know this, but JIC...

On a double braid splice, there are two things that you need to do as you make the final bury. One, keep tension on the eye, and two make sure the cover doesn't bunch as it enters the cover.

Also, you need to really jam the crossover point by pulling on the cover and tail and then very carefully smooth it back out not allowing any separation at the crossover. You really should lock stitch the core to the cover at the crossover point; it can separate and you really don't want that.

I tie the rope to a good, solid anchor point, put a large biner in the eye (the one I'm making) and make sure I maintain tension in the eye as I make the bury - very important to do that.

It is also very important that the cover and core stay balanced as it buries. You may have to work the cover toward the bury point to take out slack, but if you keep good tension on the eye, you shouldn't have to do that.

As the bury gets tight, work the rope back and forth to gain a bit of slack and bury some more. Repeat, always keeping tension in the eye, until the bury is complete.

You won't pull the eye apart with tension, pull hard.

 

[Zac]

remind me to never get a massage from John!