Splicing HRC cord

Anyone know where to find info on splicing HRC cord??? ...Or where to buy spliced HRC cord. If Tobe is out there... tell him he needs to start selling HRC cause it's definitely the best I've found.
 
I suspect that HRC is considered a "non-Spliceable" cordage- Which may not preclude Sherril's sewn "Grizzly Splice". You can currently buy the HRC in Bulk or as preknotted tress cords from WesSpur.
 
Nick, That is cool...but I'm curious, would the reason that WesSpur does not sell it spliced be because the manufacturer has not published an approved splice?
 
I don't think Wesspur does any of their own splicing. I'm not positive on this, though. It could simply be that NER isn't selling pre spliced slings? I'd have to make a couple calls for sure to find out.

I called NER and got VERBAL direction from the head of the rigging dept. C is for cookie- that's good enough for me!

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HRC is very spliceable. It is spliced much like the smaller diameter Beeline.

I'll pm you.

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Why not post the splicing instructions here? Other people would like to see it.
 
Sorry, my bad! In my brain, I thought I DID post them, when I wrote "splice the same as beeline."

Here's what you do:

Locked brummel on exposed eyes, bury about 4-6". Whip cover down at the base of each eye. Eye should be dipped for protection.

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nick
 
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Here's two attachments nick posted at the treehouse that show instructions I believe by Brion Toss for a locked brummel (nick can clarify I'm sure).

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Here's the instructions that go with the image. I use the measurements nick recommended and follow these instructions for doing the beeline (or HRC) splice.

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yeah, the splice is super easy - didn't we have this conversation on another thread recently..? the hrc hitch cords i've spliced up last for freakin ever - i retire them when i get tired of looking at them (6 mos ?), and they're still probably 98% the strength they were when i spliced em up.

now if only i could figure out how the heck michael taine spliced the bailout cords he gave me...
 

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Those look nice, and hell yeah about HRC lasting forever! I've had two cords, which I've used interchangably for the last year, and they're still soft with no glaze to speak of. The soft part is probably the selling point for me. When everything else around you is rough wood or a chainsaw, it's good to have a nice soft hitch to move around on. ...it's the small things... you know...
 
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now if only i could figure out how the heck michael taine spliced the bailout cords he gave me...

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Did he do an exposed eye??? Bring us a picture!

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nick
 
Is it harder to do that splice on an eye-eye prusik after one side is done? Any tricks to offer there? And I think I've read before that it's important to overlap the tapers, is this correct?
 
I don't think we really need the picture...I'm just being greedy.

Kathy- I recently (about a month and a half ago) checked with Samson and they said it was not acceptable/recommended to splice bail out with the standard double-braid splice. It might be worth verifying with the splicer how they spliced it and if it is indeed following ANSI guidelines by being in accordance with the manufacturers recommendations.

Personally, I think the bailout should be spliced with an exposed eye, like beeline and HRC.

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ya, whatever. i've been climbing on this splice for almost a year and it works for me. the naked core splice is not doable in any way i've tried - the weave of the core is too tight. fwiw, samson also told me at the trade show in MN that bailout was not splicable...
 
Among the many things that life sends us to ponder is the question of "acceptable" splice. Brion Toss refers to splices as knots -which, in contrast to some of the writers who have gone to great lengths to distinguish ,knots, hitches , bends , splices , seizings and all other facets of cordage manipulation and affixation, seems logical and healty to me. Splices depend upon friction and mechanics just as all other knots do. We accept that knots weaken rope. The great appeal of splices is that they either permit rope joinings to pass through hardware or in the case of eyesplices are very strong. I think the most accepted minimum figure is 90% strength for an eyesplice-with 100% sometimes obtainable. On the other hand a 65% rope strength knot may be entirely acceptable. My point is this. Practically any cordage can be spliced(a minimum disruption/diameter increasing knot) in some fashion. I suspect that the reason some products have no approved splice is because the manufacturer hasn't found a splice that they deem consistent enough in meeting that 90% strength level. That doesn't mean that an enterprising rope manipulator can't make a union that stays together in normal use. If you "Splice it, stitch it, seize it" most anything will probably hold up to the loadings we normally place on our climbing systems.
No, I'm not advocating trusting your life to someone's improvised splice....unless you choose to. In which case it really isn't my business.
 

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