Rope Guide Question

seanlarkin · Apr 29, 2003

We have customer complaint (well not so much a complaint as an observation and search for reason) about his (Bluestreak) rope corkscrewing with the ART Rope Guide. This customer says that it never happened utilizing a ring & ring Friction Saver with the same line. Is anyone out there having this (what we call) problem? If so, could you name the type of rope? We’d like to know if it’s construction or brand specific. Thanks

Kevin · Apr 30, 2003

Re: Where\'s my catalog?

Is this the "problem" thread?
If this is the problem thread, I have a problem.
I didn't get a new catalog.

Tom Dunlap · Apr 30, 2003

I left my Fly rope with Paolo in Wales so I had to go back to my XTC today. I did about 5.5 hours doing a large crown reduction which meant lots of yo yo climbing. No hockles the whole day. The Fly rarely hockled once I got the rope broken in. Like I said, I put my ropes into large diameter, flat, rope bags. Not the New Tribe style, these are ones that I got from a mountaineering supplier.

Tom

TheTreeSpyder · Apr 30, 2003

i have nothing to add, save admiration for questioning others about your own products so openly and publically!

i'm thinking that is an uncommon, common sense strategy in these days......

Treebeard · May 4, 2003

I had my new Fly do the same, but it worked itself out. also had an Arborplex line do it and I think the reason why a line will pigtail easier w/the RG is that more friction is centralized to one spot--the friction hitch, where as in other fs there is still friction being dispersed in other areas. just a theory

Mark Chisholm · May 4, 2003

Ever watch a dblbraid rigging line being hauled back up to you through the block after a section was lowered? If you let it run through your hand, you'll feel it spin continuously. Maybe this "problem" has more to do with ropes in pulleys rathe than the RG itself? Just a thought.

Oh yeah, I have experienced this as well, but usually when I run up and down a few trees in a row without running the whole line out of the bag (like in smaller trees). And with all types of lines.

TheTreeSpyder · May 4, 2003

"that more friction is centralized to one spot--the friction hitch"

Sounds very likely,
as well as compounded by curls in the system loop, have much less resitance working over pulley than 'out' friction hitch. Just like 'combing out' curls and allowing one end to be free, to present no ressitance to curls moving that way as they seek the path of least resistance to releif?

i think about any rope would tend to twist, cored ropes twisting back less to recover, as the core drags against the sheath that tries to slip back into position?