retrievable pinto loopie

[Keith Byville]

Here is something I have been playing with. I think it has some real possibilities. I would like to put it out there and see what you all think. This is a prototype. Thanks

 

[Keith Byville]

As a redirect.

 

[Keith Byville]

I replaced the cord on the retrieval cone with throw line, attached to rope with prussic and covered with tape. I do all the rigging with the cone on the work line. No trying to find the right end.

 

[Keith Byville]

Retrieving

 

[Raven]

Nice!

 

[Dblehron]

Good idea for a remote retrievable rigging point. Wouldn't want to bomb a pinto down over anything hard though. Also wouldn't want to carry 3 or 4 for srt redirects either. The only issue I see following it with a throwline is a wonky path leading to excess friction. I'm sure someone smarter than I will have more to say.

I'd prefer a whoopie xrr/pinto combo (to set remotely) but it would be retrievable the same way.

 

[Keith Byville]

Thanks for the posts! I agree 100% about the comments. I think it has limited uses, but it may be handy for pulling a redirect that needs to be where there is no crotch. Keep the thoughts coming.

 

[Worthaug]

It seems like Tenex would become less and less slippery and more an more "velcro-y", especially on White Oak for instance. Maybe using the cover of a double braid would be a better choice?

Otherwise, great idea! I will probably mess around with this concept.

 

[Keith Byville]

I had the same thought. The rigging sling can't be too long or the pinto will be below the retrieval shackle. (The shackle will be supporting the work line.) The sling needs to be adjustable in my mind.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Looks cool.

 

[Keith Byville]

I made my retrieval sling with 1/2" OD poly water line, pull cord tied with a sliding double fishermen's knot and a wichard twisted shackle. I used a heat gun to straighten the water line. I'm not sure what size the shackle is but it catches the retrieval cone, and the rope runs great through it. I want to try the other wichard shackle that is used on pulley guides.

 

[KevinS]

Do you ever have the bight come loose when flipping the line around when it's through the shackle?
What's on the end of your line that you added, a cone?

 

[Keith Byville]

No. But not sure what you mean. The cone is the retrieval device for the pinto pulley.

 

[KevinS]

I'm saying where the retrievable shackle is tied off does it ever come loose when the sling isn't loaded, or does it stay in place after a coulpe hours of work?

 

[KevinS]

Sorry I didn't say this before but cool idea I may borrow it.

Can I ask why you made this up instead of a round turned whoopie, ring-ring basket, etc? Alway find the thought behind the ideas interesting

 

[Keith Byville]

I haven't had any problems. It rides nice on the line. Make one and try it out. I would like to see what you think. I have ideas of using shrink tube and stitching to make a nice one after any bugs are worked out.

 

[Keith Byville]

Whoopie is not retrievable, and ring to ring needs a branch union. No worries. I have learned much from things I've seen on tree buzz. I love the innovation going on in the industry and the people in it.

 

[Paul Hedderly]

I think a long ring-to-ring with at least 3 wraps and the rings pretty close will always stay put. If its long enough a couple of twists "behind" the ring side would help to hold it in place during zero load.... (cooper/super cooper style)

 

[Waldo]

I have been using this for a while now. retreves very reliably on vertical stems. I placed my retriever ring on the adjustment tail of the loopie to keep it streamlined.

 

[Keith Byville]

Neat idea. I like mine because it can be un-girth hitched and used on other slings etc, ( and it's mine. Ha ha.) I knew I couldn't be the only one working on this idea.