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joe

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...is spelled P-R-U-S-I-K. I've seen this word misspelled for so long I had to look it up. This is irritating when those who are supposedly "with it" cannot spell what they use. But then again, nobody's perfect.

Joe
 
That is a good point Joe, if only making the term more easily searchable on these boards; along with correctness.

Also, it is also even properly a persons name, Austrailian climber i beleive. Dr. Karl Prusik invented the double/triple girth/choke hitch in 1931, died in '65; so this marvelous knot and all that came from it is not that old; fairly young by knot standards! Too young to be in Ashley's i believe! Very good stategy of all those gripping coils positively choking on the host line etc.; to have so much death choke powered by load that it must hold by definition! Clean, simplicity IMLHO.

Guess Joe got lucky with the name deal! At ISA when starting out on boards i tried to get my simple/lil name 'KC' (my initials and phoenetically, last name at one swipe; doesn;t take up a lot of roomn etc.; fit) But, they wouldn't allow me that name, so went with email name and maintained that across boards.

Someone else gave me the name from sitting in a tree, figuring out how to rig, thumbing the screwgate on a carabiner back and forth, humming the Spiderman song, stewing in thought like football play diagrams; a bit before the movie.
 
I've posted the correct spelling for "P-R-U-S-I-K" here, I'm irritated with it's misspelling elsewhere. It's also posted as a means to help keep me from misspelling it.

Speaking of prusiks and Ashley's, check #'s 1758, 1762, and 1763(pgs. 299 & 300).

Well, Mark, I think Ken nailed it. I've been posting as "Joe" since I started using the discussion groups.
I've thought about how many "Joes" are in the world since I started posting. So far, only a couple of posts have been written in the discussion forums where another poster has used Joe as well as myself. I've almost claimed exclusive rights to the use of "Joe" in these forums, it's kinda nice and simple.

Joe
 
ABOK #1763 Is the good ol' prusik. Ashley's was printed in 1944. So maybe Clifford and Karl had a chat prior to the printing of the book! I bet the "prusik" was around for many years before Karl came around. Perhaps he was the one that popularized it's use for climbing.

#1762 we'd call a Klemheist. (is that german? klem=climb heist=hoist? just a guess here) #1758 is what Jeff Jepson refers to as the Machard Tresse on pg. 84 of TCC.

FWIW, bowline is spelled bowline and not b-o-l-e-n. There has been confusion of that in the past ;)

love
nick
 
Joe, Seems to me that both Prusik and prussik are both acceptable ways to spell the word.If you search the net you will find that there are as many documents under Prussik as Prusik on the subject.Its a german word so when it is pronouced in English the double"s" gives it the correct pronunciation.Pru"ss"ik not Prus-ik.
You can argue about phonetics all night.
"But then you probably spell Colour without the"U"
"Does this make you mad too"!!!!!
 
'SS' is the common misspelling of this German word. Sorry about confusing Austrian/Austrailian.

i had access to perhaps an old copy of ABOK previously, i believe the topic of a prusik not being in it came up (closeness of years between the music teacher develping his Prusik, and Ashleys writing/death?). Perhaps, it was added by Budsworth in later editions before he wrote his own knot encyclopedia? Guess i should look on EBay and find a copy of ABOK as Tom has said truly the classical book of record, presently my most comprehensive knotting book is "The Art of Knotting & Splicing" Cyrus Day/Naval Institute Press; more in that book for us than Brion Toss's "Chapman's" or Rigger's books IMLHO.
 
Thank you Tom. Tom is my 1st resource for the spelling(This is the "because Tom said so" source).

This next web page is not quite a source for the spelling, but a neat page which uses the spelling p-r-u-s-i-k.

http://cmru.peak.org/Rigging/july97_drop_test.htm

This next url agrees with Kens' brief historical account for the name of the prusik. It also gives the spelling for prusik in several languages.

http://www.abc-of-rockclimbing.com/climbingdictionary.asp

Joe

p.s. Ken: it's not called a prusik in Ashley's.
 
I have a copy of the original article. The reference is: 'Ein neuer Knoten und Seine Anwendung', Bon Dr. Karl Prusik. Osterreichische Alpenzeitung, Nr. 7776, Dezember 1937,53.299. There is also a subtitle, which I have not included.

It is printed in an old script,, but I have compared it to an alphabet in a german textbook, so I am confident that this is correct.

Some day I hope to get someone to translate the entire article.

Mahk
 
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Mark,
don't forget to get editor's rights with that--based on every spell checker I've seen, you'll need to add "arborist" and related words, "mycorrhizae" (which you'll have to look up, since I probably just spelled it wrong), not to mention probably "prusik" and any nunmber of other industry-specific terms. I trust you'll actually make teh additions as needed, unlike the barely-present IT presence at the ISA site.

Keith
 
See also Ashley, p. 77, #480 and (esp.) #481. These are both called "...tree surgeon's variations of the Magnus Hitch..." and are what we would call, respectively, the tautline and the (open) Prusik.

Mahk
 
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