pruning vs trimming

owScott

owScott

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I hear terms being used that mean the same thing. Here is a list , which term do you prefer.
pruning vs trimming
climber/arborist vs tree trimmer
crown vs canopy
block vs pulley
notch vs pie
pole pruner vs pole clip
crown reduction vs shaping


spikes, hooks ,gaffs or spurs
removal, take down or wrecking
feel free to add to the list
 
Ohhhhhhh! I love this game!

pruning vs trimming
-pruning, trimming is what I do to my balls to get some attention from the wife

climber/arborist vs tree trimmer
-climber or arborist, trimmer is synonymous with hack

crown vs canopy
-? Feel like we're splitting hairs here

block vs pulley
-block is a large pulley designed for heavy rigging

notch vs pie
-notch, pie is delicious

pole pruner vs pole clip
-pruner, next...

crown reduction vs shaping
-neither, hack it back

spikes, hooks ,gaffs or spurs
-spurs, spikes are what landscapers call spurs

removal, take down or wrecking
-removal

Down only vs leave lay
-neither, no clean up

Prussic vs hitch
-prussic is a type of hitch

My contribution....
DRT vs TRT vs SRWPDdSRt
 
A block is okey to negative rig with and a pulley is not

Something that I have a hard time with around here is: Deciduous vs broadleaf vs decurrent. People use deciduous around here to explain structure of a tree rather than for leaf drop. I prefer decurrent
 
TreeVB said:
A block is okey to negative rig with and a pulley is not

Something that I have a hard time with around here is: Deciduous vs broadleaf vs decurrent. People use deciduous around here to explain structure of a tree rather than for leaf drop. I prefer decurrent
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I forgot about this term, it's been a while.

"The decurrent habit is characterized by having weak apical dominance that eventually produces a rounded or spreading tree crown. Examples of trees with decurrent habit are most hardwood trees: oak, hickory, maple, etc.[2]"
 
A person that advertises trimming is a hack or someone that does 90% removals, or someone that is really old and hasn't received any recent education in the topic

An arborist is someone with formal education in urban forestry or related. Or someone with an isa cert, but I know that's not a guarantee in some parts. I really have an issue with people that call themselves arborists but all they do is remove trees. You're not an arborist. I'm finding the term arborist is becoming the new hip thing to consider yourself.

Everything else is not as big of a deal
 
crown refers to one tree; canopy is a combination of crowns

crown reduction is one type of 'shaping'.

"I really have an issue with people that call themselves arborists but all they do is remove trees." +1. Literally, an arborist studies and cares for trees. Studying wood as it gets chipped does not count. Neither does studying the balance sheet from the office, or studying a sample in a lab.

Those jobs are necessary and honorable, but they are not studying and caring for trees.
 
guymayor said:
crown refers to one tree; canopy is a combination of crowns

crown reduction is one type of 'shaping'.

"I really have an issue with people that call themselves arborists but all they do is remove trees." +1. Literally, an arborist studies and cares for trees. Studying wood as it gets chipped does not count. Neither does studying the balance sheet from the office, or studying a sample in a lab.

Those jobs are necessary and honorable, but they are not studying and caring for trees.
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For real, arborists and treeguys are different. Imo.

We have a guy round here who claims to be and advertises the fact that he is the "unintimidated arborist". He only does bucket truck removals and hack trims.
 
owScott said:
I hear terms being used that mean the same thing. Here is a list , which term do you prefer.
pruning vs trimming
climber/arborist vs tree trimmer
crown vs canopy
block vs pulley
notch vs pie
pole pruner vs pole clip
crown reduction vs shaping


spikes, hooks ,gaffs or spurs
removal, take down or wrecking
feel free to add to the list
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Pruning is correct, trimming is what line clearance folks do

Arborist is not synonymous with climber and not all climbers are tree trimmers

Crown is the shape of the tree, the canopy is the part of the tree that the climber explores or defines the upper combination of crowns in a forest.

A block attaches to a sling with a non rotating sheave and a pulley has fixed ring (omni) or holes in the side plates (pinto)to accept a fastener or a sling. Either can be used in positive, negative, traverse, or mechanical advantage rigging.

I've never heard anybody refer to the face notch as a pie. A pie is cut radially, a face notch is cut tangentially.

Pole pruner, next!

Crown reduction is a form of shaping. Proper shaping includes solid structural or corrective pruning.

Call them whatever you want, they have a specific job - work positioning for a climber performing a dismantle.

Removal is when the entire tree is removed from a specific property. A take down or dismantle or wreck insinuates cut material remains on the property.

As soon as I stopped calling it a hand saw and started calling it a pruning saw I stopped cutting myself...

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
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how about companies that tout:
"proud of being a leader in the tree care industry" when really they are "topping and removal hacks"
I evaluated a huge, nice white oak for an old lady that told me this same company told her it had Oak Wilt and needed to be removed... This is in an area where Oak Wilt doesn't really exist
-it only had a moderate case of Jumping Oak Gall with vigorous new growth in midsummer...
 
Canopy

The part of the tree that gives it shape or shade
Name of my tree company...Canopy Tree Care

Block

Has a sheave in the small end so that it can be attached to a sling

Pulley

Cheek plates so it needs another connector between it and the sling
 
owScott said:
I hear terms being used that mean the same thing. Here is a list , which term do you prefer.
pruning vs trimming

Trimming is for hedges and lawns, not trees.

climber/arborist vs tree trimmer
Trimmer =lame

crown vs canopy
Meh. No quibbles

block vs pulley
Not the same thing at all. Do not rig stuff until you appreciate the difference.

notch vs pie
Pie is for eating. Yum.

pole pruner vs pole clip
Never heard that one.

crown reduction vs shaping
Euphemisms for topping. Mostly. There are some good reductions.

spikes, hooks ,gaffs or spurs
I can never decide which seems cooler. I'm down for whatever is cooler.

removal, take down or wrecking
All good.

feel free to add to the list
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Tom Dunlap said:
Canopy

The part of the tree that gives it shape or shade
Name of my tree company...Canopy Tree Care

Block

Has a sheave in the small end so that it can be attached to a sling

Pulley

Cheek plates so it needs another connector between it and the sling
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Uhhhh... that's my business' name...

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
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