Petzl Seqouia riding up

[ClimbingTN]

I have a 30" waist and no hips or butt. I'm using a Sequoia size 1 non-SRT. The saddle\harness keeps riding up to my ribs. Climbing seems to be OK. I find myself constantly pushing it down when hanging. I then have to pull the leg pads towards my knee. I can get it comfortable but, seems like unnecessary adjustments. I have it adjusted for a neutral sitting position and I'm not rocking back or eating my RW/pulley. I've watched a few videos and went through the instructions. Maybe I have it too loose for starting up and my weight moves things around. Is this just the nature of hanging/sitting in a saddle?

 

[bobs yeruncle]

your saddle should stay put around your body both when climbing and hanging around, ime

 

[neums]

Give this a watch and see if it's different from how your saddle is currently configured.

 

[Matias]

I found the size 1 too big and I am a little bigger than you. I got the 0 after I lost weight after I started climbing.

 

[ClimbingTN]

I found the size 1 too big and I am a little bigger than you. I got the 0 after I lost weight after I started climbing.

I had a size 2 when I was 45lbs heavier. I just bought the size 1 because I was afraid that winter or chainsaw pants would be snug for a size 0 is 25.5 - 31.5 in. Maybe I should have went with it. I’ll keep adjusting.

 

[Birdyman88]

Hey Craig, I'm a 32-34 and I'm using a size 1. Mid season, when I've lost the winter excess, Size 1 can be a little loose, so I tighten it up a bit. If I had to buy another Sequoia, I'd get a Size 0 and switch to it for the mid-late season as my waist shrinks.

 

[moss]

I had a size 2 when I was 45lbs heavier. I just bought the size 1 because I was afraid that winter or chainsaw pants would be snug for a size 0 is 25.5 - 31.5 in. Maybe I should have went with it. I’ll keep adjusting.

Even if a harness is a little big you can make it work. Tricky part is getting the belt set tight enough on your hip crests without crushing you, find that first. You say you have a good neutral position, I believe you ;-) Possibly loosen the back leg straps a little more. If the harness is still riding up I don't believe you have overall pitch adjustments right yet.

 

[moss]

Even if a harness is a little big you can make it work. Tricky part is getting the belt set tight enough on your hip crests without crushing you, find that first. You say you have a good neutral position, I believe you ;-) Possibly loosen the back leg straps a little more. If the harness is still riding up I don't believe you have overall pitch adjustments right yet.

Sometimes I read stuff I wrote and “Huh?”.

“Loosen the back straps a little more”. Maybe. More important is the pitch adjustment as is covered in any of the instructional videos like Nick’s above. If your body pitch orientation is too upright when you’re in a hang position feet off the tree, I believe that your harness belt will more likely ride up. Don’t want to be pitched way back like Nick B. showed when he put an unadjusted harness in his vid but… a little tilt back is good. Essentially good load balance between your legstraps and belt is key. If your back straps are too snug that causes other problems.

Everyone has a different style of climbing, pitch sweet spot varies per climber and harness design.

Nick calls himself a skinny guy but for skinny me his described harness belt adjustment would need to be a little tighter. An example of the details of individual climber preference.
-AJ

 

[Bart_]

Another way to think about pitch adjustment is the links/bands that go down to your leg loops , when your hip-leg joint is at 90 degrees, sets the "altitude" of your waist band - down towards your butt, up towards your belly button or somewhere in between - just below the points of your hips and near the small of your back.

I added leg loop attachment shorteners to my son's saddle when he was small - worked to stop riding up. Also corrected his style to be in a v sit bent hips whenever hanging.

 

[ClimbingTN]

Even if a harness is a little big you can make it work. Tricky part is getting the belt set tight enough on your hip crests without crushing you, find that first. You say you have a good neutral position, I believe you ;-) Possibly loosen the back leg straps a little more. If the harness is still riding up I don't believe you have overall pitch adjustments right yet.

I adjusted the belt around my hips today about as tight as I could. It seemed to help. I'll mess with neutral position, leg straps and the loop next. Not at the same time.

 

[ghostice]

I found with my old Sequoia that tightening the leg loops cut circulation in my legs so much that one of them tingled and had no feeling in one foot when I came down after hanging in the air during a cabling job years ago. After that I never tightened them up that much (at the time didn't seem excessive). So I tended to wear my leg loops looser on this harness which may have contributed to one of the buckles coming undone as I've described elsewhere (recall on old yellow clip buckles). Problems disappeared when I got a Monkey Beaver harness with added leg pads - never had a problem since. It is more of a sit harness I think. Sequoia to me isn't far off some of the alpine harnesses I've worn which you don't really spend much time "hanging" in.

 

[evo]

I had the first version, the smallest size at a 30/31 waist. I hated the riding up, the only thing that seemed to prevent it was wearing it so damn tight it would crush my hips.
Id put it on a little high, snug it down and then cram it lower.
Might need to try a different ride.