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Shame the other thread got locked because of a guy who cant keep his opinions relavent!!
I dont know Vegard personaly, and what you think of him or his way of working is for a seperate thread, but he has to live with the result a tragic accident for the rest of his life now, and its not a subject for cheap shots on a internet forum!!


For me taking down a Spruce in 30 mins is no problem, and i did it regular, and still do. What annoys is hiring a guy that does it in 10 which the chipper crew cant keep up with, wont take a rope up with him, only a buck strap, no a hard hat or ear defenders, no saw lanyard and sending the top out onto 3 guys on the ground, taking out a telephone cable and half the neighboring pine! all this on his trial morning!!! then having to be this idiots foreman for months while this [bad word] causes all kinds of damage, and crew refuse to work with him. But still he`s not fired and glen vents rage on the "foreman". a foreman can only tell a guy what to do, and stop a job if needed, if the climber wont or cant do it its up to the boss to take the needed action.

The circumstances of the seasonal worker, who has it understood that he wishes no responsibility or commitment other than holiday work for summer, will always be different to those of guys looking for permanent work, I know, I was a jobbing arborist in New zealand, America and Europe for 5 years before i came to Norway, I worked with climbers that did not want to be foreman or chargehand to Glens face but caused problems while on the worksite not following direction, with a "Dont tell me what to do" attitude
Still its a small industry here and we all know each other, thats a 2 sided coin, espesialy when animosity rears its ugly head.
My circumstances with AB are the same as many that went before me and my opinions are nothing you wont hear at the bar spoken by most here in the industry in norway.
I dont care what goes on at AB, im just glad i got out and found better poeple to work for. I`m now enjoying Norway from, the Artic circle fishing, skiing right here in the city, fine food and concerts!
Norway is a great place to work and live and it takes just some time to find the right employer, and my quality of life is the best I have ever had on a Tree surgeons wage. anywhere! granted i lived in hawaii so life wasnt cheap
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I recomend anyone gives it a try, but be prepared for the long haul to find a place just right.PM me if you want to know good small companys that may be interested.
work is work and my opinion stands, but I hold no animosity to those with a different view, lifes to short and its for living and enjoying, whether ultimatly you want to run a beach bar in Brazil, roughneck on a oil rig or run a brothel in Tel Aviv. its all the same to me.
 
Ha, you wont believe it, just found out on the phone that I worked with a guy last year in London that did a few weeks for that company a couple of years ago, he said it was as close to hell as you get in treework. He was a time served production climber who could handle 3 70ft spruce, pines, firs whatever you want in 30 mins and do all the groundwork for those trees within those 30 minutes!.
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So I guess it must be hellish.
 
Sorry Andy wrong guy, ive been subbing with akrobat for just over two years now. and yes snow and norsk holidays mean ive run out of work so heading to germany for few weeks climbing. having said that hawaii sounds interesting!!!!
 
ahh! the old akrobat/ ab trepleie confusion again
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yes its a little slack here just now until the snow clears, but not long till long daylight hours and everyone calls at the same time to get gardens tidy for may 17..
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National day, Tom.
A bit like your 4th of july. a whole load of flags getting waved, marching bands and all with a Bunad(thats the norse traditional costume)get out and about.
about a month before the day the whole country gets into a big spring cleaning frenzy, streets are cleaned, buildings washed, lawns clipped, trees pruned etc, block ascoiations organise volenteers from residents to put in most of the work,this is called a dugnvat.
beleive me the whole country shines on that day, and its a good thing as months of snow hides a lot of litter..nd frozen animal poop.lol
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Hahaha!!! Yes, but I did have Salmon too! It was a fantastic experience Svein. The sights, the people- Wonderful!
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Just a little strange to have the sun rise before 2:00 am
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especially since it just went down around 11:00 pm!
 
i worked with vergard and akrobat for quite sometime and in my experience it is only the good strong competent climbers who stay. u describe the morning of the trial members first day. u have accurately described everyday while working under vergard in a tree so maybe you should stick to roping off a 50 ft pine tree and taking a day over it. as described by others here there is no macho element in a good climbers, and if u can do it in the time why not??
 
The climber in the clip is quite agile and skilled...at a certain level. It would be so easy to add just a few things to make him a much safer climber.

It tears me up when I see an obviously skilled climber not taking the few seconds more to use two hands, add a second support, not cut with the end of the bar so much. That sort of sloppy climbing is going to lead to injuries and death.

Is any tree worth dieing for?
Is any job worth killing for?
 

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