NATCC...what worked...what didn't?

Tom Dunlap

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NATCC...what worked...what didn\'t?

This is for anyone who participated or attended the NATCC last year.

Please share what you liked about the comp? What would you like continued?

What were the shortcomings? What would you like to see abandoned? What could be tweaked to make the NATCC better?

Thanks!
 
Re: NATCC...what worked...what didn\'t?

The first NATCC was a very well set up and organized event. I wouldn't change a thing other than making sure the Texas climbers get their own Master's Climb.
 
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I'd still argue that the climbers from Texas are not getting the same chances for going to the ITCC as other north American chapter climbers. The NATCC should be a stand alone event, not affiliated with a chapter.

If the Europeans can do it, Dammit, why can't we? The Republicans keep saying we are better than the Europeans.

SZ
 
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It seems to me that there are an aweful lot of competitions scheduled for that exact time period across the nation....but then again, I'm sure that was taken into consideration by all of the Chapter TCC liaisons when they discussed this prior to bunching North American with another comp....,.again
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Yes, allow SRT I forgot about that. I also agree that the NATCC should be a stand alone event. That may be possible next year, sounds like this year has been decided. Thank you Texas!
 
Re: NATCC...what worked...what didn\'t?

Pros:

The preliminary events at NATCC 2011 were challenging and well run.

Difficulty levels worthy of a national championship.

With 66 competitors, I was impressed that the prelim events were completed in one day.

Master's Challenge difficult, yet contestants were given enough time to complete the event safely and use progressive gear and techniques.

Cons:

Host chapter (Southern) not allowed to run their own Master's Challenge.

Running 66 competitors through in one day is quite an accomplishment. However, I sincerely hope this does not set a precedent that we can keep cramming more and more climbers into our competitions and still expect the highest quality event.

Inspection of Aerial Rescue in-line anchor systems: I know this is a difficult subject, and I applaud the patience of the inspection technicians. However, I know we can come up with an index of acceptable configurations along with known variations that can be disseminated to contestants prior to gear inspection. Look over the index. If your system is listed, and the variation sub-list yields a compatible result... you are good to go. Only have a configuration checked if it cannot be found in the index.

The belayed speed climb was not "belayed" with a device. Climbers were on their climbing line set up (friction hitch, etc) but the tail of line was simply redirected through a pulley at the base of the tree and slack was being tended by hand.

In the Master's challenge, one competitor's primary tie in point for access and work positioning was frighteningly under sized and over leveraged. This system was a ground anchored SRT for ascent and an in-line anchor was installed for work positioning. Prior to ascent, the system and anchor point were tested by the climber and a judge/tech hanging on the line simultaneously. I was standing with a group of climbers and all of us were certain that the anchor point would fail. Alas, it did not. I had butterflies in my stomach during the contestants entire climb. The climbers around me were also nervous. Hard to go into full detail about it but I feel that the anchor point was unacceptable. The potential is very high that the test bounce created a primary failure along the anchor limb, leaving the climber with a considerably weakened TIP.
 
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I feel the NATCC will best be held as a stand alone event.

I feel that the European TCC model should be followed with regard to eligibility of competitors:

ETCC Rules

"A European country may have a team of up to 5 competitors, no more than 3 of which may be male."

"A maximum of 5 international guest climbers may take part in the competition of which no more than three may be male and this “International Guest Team of up to 5” may only compete in the preliminaries."

If your chapter does not have any female representation, you may not fill those empty spots with male competitors.

In order to keep the number of competitors at NATCC reasonable, the max number allowed per Chapter may need to be lower than ETCC due to the greater number of US/Canadian Chapters.
 
Re: NATCC...what worked...what didn\'t?

Just heard that the Texas Chapter will no longer be hosting the North American Comp....not sure what happened, but my hope is that the event will be run on its own.....If not, maybe shelve the idea until the planning can be put in place so that it can be run on its own...
 

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