Morbark M20R vs. Bandit 1990XP?

Greetings! I'm looking for opinions on a new chipper purchase. I'm upgrading my Morbark Hurricane 18 to either a M20R with loader or a Bandit 1990 with loader. I know the Morbark product quality, as Ive owned several. I'm looking for feedback on Bandit's line, particularly on the larger models. I'm interested in their ability to hold up to daily use utilizing a loader and feeding larger wood. I've demo'd a friend's brand new 1990 with loader (JD 275) and was impressed with the way it chipped and fed. I just am not sure it will hold up over the years. I'd love to hear from someone who owns one with a few thousand hours just to see what, if any, repairs it has needed. All educated opinions are welcomed!
 
Marquis, youre right about the Bandit's loader. I spec'd one out with the larger bull gear loader rather than the backhoe style loader. I'm told that Mayer has the exact one that I've spec'd. Hopefully they have some feedback for me. Truthfully, I've not considered the Woodsman due to hearing about them being taken over by Terex. I'll hopefully see one at TCIA. I am definitely happy with my Morbark, but am willing to explore other options. Any other info, especially on Bandit's durability over the long haul, would be appreciated.
 
second handfeed back on the machine your talking about has not been great, I personally think bandit should completely scrap their loader design and start fresh. We have 4 woodsmen’s now and to be honest they all come from the factory with some issues, but after you work thru them they are amazing machines. we are thinking about ordering a 12" woodsmen for one of our line clearance crews. I have never liked morbark, I worked for a company who had a 2400xl with a loader on it, it was a very poorly designed and built machine (IMO), 4 years old and the entire frame needed to be rebuilt from scratch because it tore itself apart. It was down more than one of woodsmens early attempts at a grapple machine. I don’t like the way the chip, feed or anything about them. I have heard from people in the industry that morbark doesn’t really care that much about their smaller machines (as far as investing in design improvements) they spend more time on their grinders and larger machines. Not sure how accurate that is but looking at how little has changed in their machines over the years it could be true. The source of this info was a former Morbark employee who now works for a competitor so he is not an unbiased source. I haven’t worked with a 20r yet but after spending 30mins walking around a year old grapple 20r i was not impressed with its durability. We bought a 1890 Brute a few months back as a smaller handfed chipper for a bucket crew, I have to say it has had no issues and works well, its not as aggressive as a woodsmen 18x but is certainly a nice chipper.
 
A lot of good info there.

FWIW my morbarks have been pretty bulletproof and productive.
 
A friend of mine who works for the the city of Charlotte tree management told me bad things about Morbark. He said the city had a new one with low hours that kept breaking welds. I was disappointed to hear that since they have a very reliable Cummins engine.
 
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Stick with Morbark man. Don't have much experience with those two models, but we've had a Morbark Model 17 since 1994 and its still going strong. Nothing but great things to say about Morbark!

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A morbark will be my first new chipper
 
I had a Model 17 for years and now have had an 18 for 6 years, its a productive, reliable, low maint., workhorse
 
I have a morbark 15. We are constantly amazed by the work that thing does. We have had issues but our dealer really took care of us. I just bought a morbark 18 with a 225 cummins. Its coming this week. I can't wait!
 
I'm really lovin' the bandit 1990! Not even a yr old though. I abuse it all the time....24 inch plus dia logs! No issues at all even the paint is holding up great. I ve heard the 20R, wdsmn 790, and Vermeer 2100 are great too but the 1990 takes larger diameter logs (I think Marquis has a custom 790 that also takes 24 + logs) than the others. IMHO you'll increase production with any of the above. Bandit was really great about adding my custom rack on the front to haul mini loader. Their price was a little over half what the vermeer cost?
 
Lets see some pics of the set up with the mini on it. Also more pics of your amazing boom trucks working.

What does your 1990 weigh? Its a class A CDL if they are over 10,000 correct?
 

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