low-kickback chains

This is a great sight, and I've learned alot about arborculture and safety that cann't be found anywhere else. I have a question about chainsaw chains. I've been using low-kickback chains for years now, and just switched over to standard chain. So far I've used it for all cutting tech. and find I'm getting better results, faster cut, bigger chips. What type of chain is everybody using, and should I switch back to a low-kickback chain because there's something I'm not understanding about safety?
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I always try to avoid low-kickback chain. I am well aware of the risks of kickback and how to avoid them. At times, I need to be able to use the tip of my saw (for a plunge cut, for example) and low-kickback chain thwarts me. I think this is a safety feature for homeowners and weekend warriors who don't bother to read the manual for their saw or any of the other 9 million sources of info on safe saw use.

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I agree with babberney. The low kick back chains are safer, but if you are good with a chain saw, they are not nessicary. With that though, I do mean technically good, not just "Oh, I have used them for a long time and have no problems." And again as stated before, plunge cutting and such is sometimes nessicary (personally still working on incorparating it into my cutting).
 
I just recently purchased a Husky 346. It runs out at 13,500 rpm. I am a veteran climber over a decade but this saw scares me. The kick back is ultra aggressive. Its not even a skip-tooth or full comp chain. Its radicle. Id like to start familurizing myself with the saw with a safety chain on it instead of the stock chain. Its just that radicle I guess because it has twice the hp as a one handed saw but with the same weight.
 
Reduced kickback chain on my climbing saw only. All other chain saws have no reduced kickback features.
There is a 'narrow kerf' chain for the Husky346 that cuts faster, is smoother and is semi-chisel. Oregon makes it in a .325 pitch. I'm currently using it on mine and it's the smoothest chain I've ever cut with.
 
oh no i smell another one hand vs 2 hand chainsaw debate, my boss only buys low kickback chains and ive been trying to switch over on the climbing saws because of how frustraiting it is with the low kickbacks, hey just arent aggressive enough for my taste, ive even started purchasing my own chains for his saws just so i can enjoy a better cutting experience, does anyone know where i can buy some great 16 inch chains without the low kickback feature for a halfway descent price?
 
i thought stihl supplied all ms 200 saws ready fitted with this crap chain, and if you took it off you were performing a "modification", hence using the saw against the manufacturers recomendations, in turn setting yourself up with the hse.
dunno just thought i heard that.
 
yeah chubbster your right, all stihls come with low kickback chains on them, good stuff, not really, especially when doing a fun pine with all the weight on the tips of course, the saw just doesnt rip enough,
 
Just a thought, they may sell them with the low kick back chains for liability reason. I mean if they wheren't selling it with as many safty features on them as possible these days I think they would be takin a chance.
After all how hard do you think it would be to explain to a judge why a low kick back chain sucks on a 'for professional use' saw, as apposed to "Every saw should have a low kick back chain so it is safe."
 
I don't think you need a license by us to get'em, and from the little bit I have been in the Europe area people don't seam to try and blame others for their own stupidity anyway.
But it is probally easier for STIHL to put the same chain on all saws than change it depending on where it is going to go.
Regardless I am just pondering, I could be completely wrong. Would be nice to know the truth.
 
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oh no i smell another one hand vs 2 hand chainsaw debate, my boss only buys low kickback chains and ive been trying to switch over on the climbing saws because of how frustraiting it is with the low kickbacks, hey just arent aggressive enough for my taste, ive even started purchasing my own chains for his saws just so i can enjoy a better cutting experience, does anyone know where i can buy some great 16 inch chains without the low kickback feature for a halfway descent price?

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Bailey's
 
low kickback chains are not welcome at our shop.
j-u-n-k

However, if I ran a saw shop, I would put it on all saws unless I knew the buyer is qualified.

I have problems trying to get skip chain at shops around here.... Now that's fast!
 

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