HUMAN.....man is still at it.... THIS dude is on something

Give it to him for posting the videos though... that takes alot of balls. Reg, august, the monster tree guy?, pfanner man videos are all very inspiring to watch. But im sure a fare amount of editing goes into smoothing out the rough spots. After all we are all only humans.
I get the impression that he posts the videos because he thinks he is great... Not because he thinks he has things to learn or needs critiqued. There is a difference. That doesn't take balls, it takes arrogance.
 
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That said I can't watch this video all the way through. His casual one-handing bums me out. I wish him well, yeah he's getting better but...
-AJ
Certainly makes the case for a hard line "never one hand the saw". (I am in that camp..). This topic has been beat to death. There are always some who say they one hand on occasion when there is not another/better way to make the cut, but very few who say "I'm just too lazy to put both hands on the saw" or "I'm so awesome, i don't need both hands" one of which is what seems to be the case here.
 
I get the impression that he posts the videos because he thinks he is great... Not because he thinks he has things to learn or needs critiqued. There is a difference. That doesn't take balls, it takes arrogance.
Yeah I agree. We tree people are an odd group, we post videos of the most mundane everyday boring tree jobs. Why? Caught myself the other day watching one such video and said to myself what kind of lame ass watches this crap? Quickly followed by, oh your watching it. I think its the times we live in. 20 years ago my tree friends would have said WTF I don't need to watch that crap I live it everyday.
 
I get the impression that he posts the videos because he thinks he is great... Not because he thinks he has things to learn or needs critiqued. There is a difference. That doesn't take balls, it takes arrogance.
I give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he posts the videos for people to get the chance to see when something goes wrong. I’d rather watch him make mistakes on YouTube and remember those so I don’t make them when I’m in the tree.
To me, the learning value between watching someone make mistakes and someone flawlessly rigging a 160ft mountain ash are same-same. Just gotta remember which ones are the mistakes!
And I think he gets that, he usually points out the no-good parts.
 
Yeah I agree. We tree people are an odd group, we post videos of the most mundane everyday boring tree jobs. Why? Caught myself the other day watching one such video and said to myself what kind of lame ass watches this crap? Quickly followed by, oh your watching it. I think its the times we live in. 20 years ago my tree friends would have said WTF I don't need to watch that crap I live it everyday.
Tree vids really are quite boring unless you throw a bunch of awesome clips from various jobs and some killer tunes...to watch a tree being removed ya better show some drone footage.....
 
@rico I like your vids because they are smooth.....and big conifers intrigue me because I really know very little about them. So I watch your rhythm and tech in case I am ever thrown in one. Well I have done shitty norfolk pines here. Quite small in comparison so do not count.
 
Seriously though, I work the biggest trees in my area. Not the biggest in the world, but a 4 foot diameter oak is big wood. Most of the trees I get are over at least one roof, often slate or ceramic tile, house drops, pole to pole lines, fences, other trees and landscaping that the customer doesn't want to have damaged... the bottom 1/2 to 1/3 is never the hard part around here. Its a pain in the ass sometimes because its BORING negative rigging big heavy logs and moving the block and rigging down over and over. If I can drop the logs without rigging, oh happy times!!! But a 24 inch dia lead that crosses the house drops then both sides of the roof with no bucket or crane access, that is a challenge. Especially when the tree is only 70 foot tall with no good center high point to rope into.
 
I give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he posts the videos for people to get the chance to see when something goes wrong. I’d rather watch him make mistakes on YouTube and remember those so I don’t make them when I’m in the tree.
To me, the learning value between watching someone make mistakes and someone flawlessly rigging a 160ft mountain ash are same-same. Just gotta remember which ones are the mistakes!
And I think he gets that, he usually points out the no-good parts.
Nope don't buy it. You are saying he makes these videos because he knows he will make mistakes people can learn from? The video where he almost hits his buddy in the tree, which I don't get either, with a log and then played it off like it wasn't a problem. No this guy thinks he is great. I personally don't get my what to do and not do from youtube, this crap is pure entertainment. If you learn something, great but I don't think that's the intent. This guy in IMO is average doing average tree work at best that's giving him the benefit of the doubt.
 
Seriously though, I work the biggest trees in my area. Not the biggest in the world, but a 4 foot diameter oak is big wood. Most of the trees I get are over at least one roof, often slate or ceramic tile, house drops, pole to pole lines, fences, other trees and landscaping that the customer doesn't want to have damaged... the bottom 1/2 to 1/3 is never the hard part around here. Its a pain in the ass sometimes because its BORING negative rigging big heavy logs and moving the block and rigging down over and over. If I can drop the logs without rigging, oh happy times!!! But a 24 inch dia lead that crosses the house drops then both sides of the roof with no bucket or crane access, that is a challenge. Especially when the tree is only 70 foot tall with no good center high point to rope into.
Welcome to the wonderful world of tropical tree rigging on one of the mostl densely populated islands in the world. But the trunks are always huge multistemmed monsters.
 
Nope don't buy it. You are saying he makes these videos because he knows he will make mistakes people can learn from? The video where he almost hits his buddy in the tree, which I don't get either, with a log and then played it off like it wasn't a problem. No this guy thinks he is great. I personally don't get my what to do and not do from youtube, this crap is pure entertainment. If you learn something, great but I don't think that's the intent. This guy in IMO is average doing average tree work at best that's giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Pure unadulterated comedy for the most part. A yawn for the next...some nice ones in between.....
 
Nope don't buy it. You are saying he makes these videos because he knows he will make mistakes people can learn from? The video where he almost hits his buddy in the tree, which I don't get either, with a log and then played it off like it wasn't a problem. No this guy thinks he is great. I personally don't get my what to do and not do from youtube, this crap is pure entertainment. If you learn something, great but I don't think that's the intent. This guy in IMO is average doing average tree work at best that's giving him the benefit of the doubt.
I'm saying he's submitting his videos, without editing out the mistakes, not that he's making mistakes on purpose to get them on film. Nobody here is going to give the guy a gold medal for good tree climbing or cutting. And Youtube doesn't give him a gold medal for his tree climbing abilities either. It's all about views, and I'm not afraid to watch a video of someone who highlights mistakes in our business.
 
I give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he posts the videos for people to get the chance to see when something goes wrong. I’d rather watch him make mistakes on YouTube and remember those so I don’t make them when I’m in the tree.
To me, the learning value between watching someone make mistakes and someone flawlessly rigging a 160ft mountain ash are same-same. Just gotta remember which ones are the mistakes!
And I think he gets that, he usually points out the no-good parts.

Only thing I really don’t like is the carelessness in the planning of the cut and that is portrayed as acceptable. It may be that the other trees were coming out (not disclosed) but smashing the hell out of other trees because couldn’t be bothered rigging, planning the fall (initial impossible notch direction, then abandoned to a possible but badly planned lay) makes arborists look lazy as hell - yes some exist but shouldn’t be portrayed on video as acceptable procedure...
 
Only thing I really don’t like is the carelessness in the planning of the cut and that is portrayed as acceptable. It may be that the other trees were coming out (not disclosed) but smashing the hell out of other trees because couldn’t be bothered rigging, planning the fall (initial impossible notch direction, then abandoned to a possible but badly planned lay) makes arborists look lazy as hell - yes some exist but shouldn’t be portrayed on video as acceptable procedure...
Oh I refused to mention the obvious. I hate ever touching other trees not being removed. That is not acceptable. Thee are legit times not sure this was one. As angles can make shit look weird in the fisheye.
 
Seriously though, I work the biggest trees in my area. Not the biggest in the world, but a 4 foot diameter oak is big wood. Most of the trees I get are over at least one roof, often slate or ceramic tile, house drops, pole to pole lines, fences, other trees and landscaping that the customer doesn't want to have damaged... the bottom 1/2 to 1/3 is never the hard part around here. Its a pain in the ass sometimes because its BORING negative rigging big heavy logs and moving the block and rigging down over and over. If I can drop the logs without rigging, oh happy times!!! But a 24 inch dia lead that crosses the house drops then both sides of the roof with no bucket or crane access, that is a challenge. Especially when the tree is only 70 foot tall with no good center high point to rope into.
I agree with most of that. Here is what I dispute, a 48" DBH oak, 70ft tall a lead at 24" will be in the lower 1/3 to lower 1/2 especially near a house drop, which is in the lower 1/2 those proportions seem off. I was speaking generally that smaller branches are easier to manipulate that larger wood which obviously is lower down. You can always paint a picture of a situation outside a generalization. Example, no center, short wide tree many obstacles, wires everywhere. Again the example you use would be a challenge but not really what I was saying. That's why we love this work though, because things are different most every time. I do appreciate your response though because I do like those challenging ones.
 
Only thing I really don’t like is the carelessness in the planning of the cut and that is portrayed as acceptable. It may be that the other trees were coming out (not disclosed) but smashing the hell out of other trees because couldn’t be bothered rigging, planning the fall (initial impossible notch direction, then abandoned to a possible but badly planned lay) makes arborists look lazy as hell - yes some exist but shouldn’t be portrayed on video as acceptable procedure...
Agreed. I shook my head as I saw him drop that stick into another tree. Def a rookie move. I wish there was a way for us to tell other viewers that it's not acceptable procedure. Oh wait, there is! the video comments
 

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