home made wire core lanyard???

[Daveyface]

has anyone ever tried to make a wire core lanyard with 16 strand?. i know they crimp the eyes but my idea was to just replace the core of 16 strand with some equal size wire to stiffen up the lanyard, the eyes will still be regular 16 strand splice and the wire would start where the core is tapered and not hold any weight just keep it stiff. my concern is the wire is slippery-er than the core fiber and wouldnt hold the splice together enough for life support, any thoughts?

 

[evo]

Flemish eyes in wire are actually pretty easy to do. Finishing the splice can be kind of ugly and pokey. Often the swage is there more for finish than structure.
Part of the issue with stuffing a 16 strand, is keeping the wire in place. As well as the looong buries in 16 strands. I had this on my todo list but never got around to it
It use to be very common to make your own steel core three strand or four strand, in these parts

 

[evo]

 

[Brocky]

I wonder if you could use a single braid vectran, or dyneema, in place of the steel cable , if it fit in tightly. It would might be more compatible with the splices.

 

[jmcscrap]

has anyone ever tried to make a wire core lanyard with 16 strand?. i know they crimp the eyes but my idea was to just replace the core of 16 strand with some equal size wire to stiffen up the lanyard, the eyes will still be regular 16 strand splice and the wire would start where the core is tapered and not hold any weight just keep it stiff. my concern is the wire is slippery-er than the core fiber and wouldnt hold the splice together enough for life support, any thoughts?

Is this just to add some rigidity to the line to help flipping it up the tree? I cant see it being any "safer" than a full rope lanyard if the eye splice does not have the wire in it. Once the cover is severed it would slide off the cable. Maybe I'm looking at this completely wrong?

 

[Daveyface]

Is this just to add some rigidity to the line to help flipping it up the tree? I cant see it being any "safer" than a full rope lanyard if the eye splice does not have the wire in it. Once the cover is severed it would slide off the cable. Maybe I'm looking at this completely wrong?

yes i just want to stiffen up the rope since i can splice rope easily i wanted to just add some wire to the standard 16 strand splice to make it easier to flip up the tree, im not concerned with it being harder to cut and was only thinking of having the wire replace the core not hold any weight

 

[Daveyface]

to be clear i wasnt trying to make the eyes with the wire, i thought maybe i could replace the core with wire and use the rope eyes like any other rope lanyard but it would be a bit stiffer. my question was more about whether the wire as core would be okay or would it make the splice slip since wire is smoother than rope fibers

 

[jmcscrap]

That makes sense - Thanks!

 

[Z'sTrees]

Anyone make their own wire core?
The flemish eye looks easy enough, but not sure how one would press the swage "at home"

 

[Brocky]

If you used cable, it's my guess that the splice would still hold, it's the finger trap like squeezing that holds the bury. The slickness of the cable wouldn't effect that. I would think you would want it to run inside as close to the eyes as possible, so that you have a consistent diameter for the hitch or device to run on.

 

[Tony]

to be clear i wasnt trying to make the eyes with the wire, i thought maybe i could replace the core with wire and use the rope eyes like any other rope lanyard but it would be a bit stiffer. my question was more about whether the wire as core would be okay or would it make the splice slip since wire is smoother than rope fibers

I would think if that is your only goal there would be better material choices other than wire rope. Some sort of flexible plastic?

Seems like after time and effort are calculated in you would not be saving anything.

Or perhaps another thing all together like this from Buck
https://buckinghammfg.com/products/arborist/the-buck-rigidline-7808r18m6/

Tony

 

[39Buick]

Anyone make their own wire core?
The flemish eye looks easy enough, but not sure how one would press the swage "at home"

Anyone make their own wire core?
The flemish eye looks easy enough, but not sure how one would press the swage "at home"

I have not done a lanyard but have made slings for pulling pipes underground with a directional drill. They used to charge like rip for sling setups for pulling multiple conduits at the same time.
I purchased the swages and hand press for doing 3/8” wire ropes. Usually a go or no go gauge comes with the swages so after the crimp you could test them to make sure they were right. Never pull tested them on a setup like they are using for ropes and such but onboard pressure gauge used to get up into the thousand pound range pulling 5 or 6 conduits. Never broke any and actually sold enough of them to recoup all of the costs
Ps the hand press looks like a pair of bolt cutters and the head is cut for particular size swages.