HHXF with DMM director yoke carabiner?
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Phil
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I finally got to put some time on the device this weekend and after all my wonky configuring and overthinking, the final solution was rather simple. I use a small ring on my rope bridge and put the swing arm directly to the ring. The carabiner on the terminal end of my climb line also fits in the same ring, but takes up enough space that the swing arm cannot be removed from the ring due to the dimension of the slick pin hole area. This will eliminate accidental drops of the swing arm as long as there is a carabiner in the ring along with the swing arm. Thats not a problem in MRS. and in SRS, the carabiner is what I will attach my chest clip to so I'll just leave it in there. Super compact, super smooth. Glad I made the purchase.
posted this mini review on the HHFX thread and thought I would include it here-
'I recently got a few days of work in with the HH XF and found it to be an extremely smooth device in both SRT and DdRT, and the best device I have personally used for seamlessly flowing between these 2 modes. Love it. Well played Mr. Mumford!"
This device is well tailored for the type of work I do/my climbing style and I like enough that i will be ordering a second one. I can't really give a higher recommendation than that!
'I recently got a few days of work in with the HH XF and found it to be an extremely smooth device in both SRT and DdRT, and the best device I have personally used for seamlessly flowing between these 2 modes. Love it. Well played Mr. Mumford!"
This device is well tailored for the type of work I do/my climbing style and I like enough that i will be ordering a second one. I can't really give a higher recommendation than that!
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Do u like it more than the hh2?
I do. As much as I enjoy the HH2 I find the FX to be a much smoother and refined ride. I am running either Richard’s Catalan with 3 wraps on top (instead of 6) or my 3 over/1 under Michoacán, and with both it tends slack wonderfully and is super responsive. My Wrench/HC setup has been my gold standard for quite awhile and this thing is nipping at its heels. Add in the fact that the FX makes for a very compact setup while also giving me the ability to seamlessly switch between single to double and I have a device that really fits my needs and my climbing style. For me there is something really special about the feel of a well dialed in HH type device, and no other setup that I have run has been able to replicate that feel (hard to describe). Still in the honeymoon phase but I am really digging this thing. YMMV of coarse.
A King is born. HHFX and a 3 wrap arbsession hitch. Holy Treebejeezus this setup is nice!
Gave the FX a good hard run for the last 3 days producing some nice second growth mill logs. For my work environment and style the FX is the best device I have used to date, and it will be my go-to for the foreseeable future.
Gave the FX a good hard run for the last 3 days producing some nice second growth mill logs. For my work environment and style the FX is the best device I have used to date, and it will be my go-to for the foreseeable future.
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Phil
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Do you keep the "permanent" stopper knot on the right side of the dog bone for this hitch then? I've never tied this hitch and had to look up a how to video. Looks like a good option and very compact. I'll give it a whirl next time I'm out.
I am way too ignorant to figure out how to tie the Arbsession with either stopper knot (left or right) permanently tied, but someone a little more intelligent than myself could figure it out very quickly. Instead I tie the hitch, get it dialed in, set the stoppers, and leave it on the rope until I am forced to take it off the rope. I will say that after a couple weeks of running the HHFX, other than fucking around with various hitches, I have not needed to pull it from my line.
Soon after receiving the HHFX I quickly realized that it was a very different device than the HH2 when it comes to hitches. For me the hitches that were great on the HH2 were gawd awful on the FX, and visa versa. I could never get a Michoacán or Richard’s Catalan to work on the HH2, but dammed if they both don’t kickass on the FX. On a whim I gave the Arbsession a try and after a little tweaking the FX was singing like a bird. Simply the best ride I have ever had. To be honest I am a little shocked by how much I like this device..
A quick shoutout to @Njdelaney for his high praise of the HHFX. It pushed me over the edge and I owe you one brother.
Soon after receiving the HHFX I quickly realized that it was a very different device than the HH2 when it comes to hitches. For me the hitches that were great on the HH2 were gawd awful on the FX, and visa versa. I could never get a Michoacán or Richard’s Catalan to work on the HH2, but dammed if they both don’t kickass on the FX. On a whim I gave the Arbsession a try and after a little tweaking the FX was singing like a bird. Simply the best ride I have ever had. To be honest I am a little shocked by how much I like this device..
A quick shoutout to @Njdelaney for his high praise of the HHFX. It pushed me over the edge and I owe you one brother.
flyingmosstreen
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The way the "c" is formed makes this hitch want to be tied from right to left. Or left to right if you want your "c" backwards. If that makes sense.
flyingmosstreen
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@rico I ran downstairs to try this hitch on my new to me HH2 and will definitely be giving it a go. Four wraps seemed a bit tight but three was pretttttty smooth. I'm 165# without gear etc. My coworker is 125# without gear and regularly uses 24" prusiks with three wrap combos...
Sweet looking job btw
Sweet looking job btw
I've got got a rrp and a backup I guess I'm way behind I'll have to buy one.
Muggs
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The HHX was my jam for over a year between 2018 and 2019. I loved that thing so much on my Poison Ivy. Hardly ever took it off. Had it dialed in mint. Then I moved to the OG Runner and then eventually to the Bone. Mechanicals ruined me for hitches. When I got my XF last year, it was awesome, a thing of beauty, but I never could get it dialed in as good as my X used to be. Kept meaning to make the time to try more hitches and cord combinations but never got around to it. Just found myself being pulled back to the Bone. I love the Hiker on my secondary line for switching between doubled and srt, there's nothing like it. Maybe the arbsession hitch is the answer. I'm gonna try it out tomorrow. Many thanks Rico for the recommendation, maybe this is the unlock I've been looking for.
You've shared your knowledge and advice with me more than once in ways that have proven very helpful so consider this one less that I owe you.
Funny but the Bone and the Runner ruined me, but in a different way. I loved how both gobbled up slack, but I could never get completely comfortable on either of them. Go figure? Instead I worked on trying to get my hitch based systems to have near mechanical slack eating capabilities while retaining that buttery feel that I only get from hitch based systems. Being a very light climber has allowed me to use very few wraps and 8mm cordage. A recipe which has gotten my hitch based setups right where I dreamt they could be. What a time to be a climber!
All this shows just how personal climbing gear is and how much influence work environment, climbing style, and climber weight/body type have on our gear decisions.
On a side note, I think Gordon should receive a Nobel Peace Prize for his work on the Bone. An amazing kit!
I have both swingarms and I will say that I personally think the non-captive eye is the better choice. If you plan on using the HHXF exclusively, the captive eye MAY be a good choice. Since the captive eye swingarm goes directly on to your bridge as Richard designed it, you either have to 1-untie your bridge and remove it to use a different device, 2- find a way to stow it off to the side like tying it to your lower D, which I tried and didn't like, or 3- find a way to use it where you attach the captive eye to your bridge in an easily removable fashion. This, in the absence of a swivel, requires 2 connections in order to attain the correct orientation because the captive eye is oriented on the device exactly as a bridge ring would be, and adding connections defeats the purpose of using the captive eye, which is to keep the system short and tidy. If this isn't making sense I can draw a picture, just let me know. Also, the ring on the captive eye is much smaller than a typical bridge ring so connecting additional systems to it is not really possible in the same way as with a normal size bridge ring. Ultimately the answer will depend on the specifics of your climbing, but in general the non-captive eye swingarm is the much more versatile choice. Long answer to a short question eh?
chiselbit
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chiselbit
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You guys are using the wrong carabiner
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