Family plan health insurance

djm

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Seacoast NH
What are people contributing towards a family plan. This is the last thing we need to really work on in our benefits package. There are a couple of guys I want that have families and need insurance. We do stuff for individuals but with family plans costing 1400$/ month there is only so much I can do. Thoughts? What are the big companies doing?
 
I don't know what the big companies are doing but when I offered health insurance it was for the employee only. The spouse and family could be added but the difference was deducted weekly from pay.
 
I provide health insurance for my employees (company pays 75%), dependants can be added but they have to pay for them. Have a guy in his late 20's paying around $800 a month for wife & kids. Guy in his late 40's is nearly $1700 a month. We use Kaiser as our provider.
$600/mo is real good. With Obamacare and the healthcare changes my insurance guy is saying that going forward many families will find a better price on the "exchange". The fed's will be giving a subsidy for "low income" wage earners (WTF that is I don't know, probably varies from state to state).
 
I am not sure that today's view of health insurance won't be very different in a few years. I think that the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care) is not fully developed and what the program will finally exist as will take some time.

I am in favor of many of the new policies implemented as a result of Obama Care. I am not in favor of the cost increases it has caused to our health care.

Our policy came back this year with a 23% increase. This is after a 41% increase last year. In comparison to the plans offered through the exchange our pricing is still better (not taking into account any subsidies one might be eligible for). We have had to change plans in order to keep insurance affordable for both employees and the company. This has been a tough process.

We offer a 50/50 split for family plans. I hope that with time we see prices decrease or at least hold. I can't imagine how someone can be expected to pay $150+ per week for health insurance... That's almost $4 per hour straight towards insurance...

This issue really is a downer.
 
Any other owners/managers considered that when ACA (Obamacare) is fully implemented, and everyone has health insurance: What will be the point of work comp insurance?
I think this is something we could get behind in our industry. If I didn't have to buy work comp insurance I could put that into workers' pockets, or toward health insurance costs. I am worried how many lawyers make LOTS of money from comp cases...
 
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Any other owners/managers considered that when ACA (Obamacare) is fully implemented, and everyone has health insurance: What will be the point of work comp insurance?
I think this is something we could get behind in our industry. If I didn't have to buy work comp insurance I could put that into workers' pockets, or toward health insurance costs. I am worried how many lawyers make LOTS of money from comp cases...

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I really don't think that the greedy mofos are going to like not getting the 40K a year I already send them, but it would be an awesome idea!
 
What will the effects of the ACA be on workers compensation...

Workers comp covers things that health insurance doesn't. Examples are lost wages, payment for disability, or even death. If health insurance was required to cover work place injuries... they would probably raise their rates.

The ACA insurance exchange in Ohio is offering many plans with huge deductibles. A lot of the plans listed for a family have 10K plus deductibles... To think the average person can handle a 10K deductible I don't think is reasonable. Does this cause an increase in workers comp claims? Comp has no deductible...
 
I agree that the employer will need death, disability & lost time coverage. I think Aflac's supplemental plan might do it (or something like it).

I had this idea when at a Kaiser clinic I spoke to a guy who had an on the job injury and was doing his PT thru Kaiser. I'd guess he worked for a big company that uses Kaiser for everything?

In my situation most of our on the job injuries are minor (I'm knocking on wood)- pulls, strains, couple stitches, ect. If possible I pay these out of pocket because rates are based on your mod which is based on frequency. If need be I have the employee do some light duty stuff until he's good to go, so no lost wages. Every situation is different and with guys I don’t know (or injuries unknown) I file a claim. My point is this: big companies have a go to comp doctor, this is a way for them to weed out false claims. It also provides for a doctor to determine when a claim should be filed vs. pay from pocket. These are huge benefits in the long run and why not us, if we’re paying for the insurance use it to our advantage.
Treecareinc brings up the biggest problem with comp or any system like it- Fraud. That’s why these big corporations are doing what I describe. That’s why if you tell the folks at the ER it was an on the job injury, they scrutinize and test a whole bunch more. They know that if an ambulance chasing attorney finds out, someone is getting sued. They don’t want it to be them.

And no, 2k's not even reasonable but it gets you insurance. Some would argue 10k in debt is better than paying for the whole heart attack that could run 100k or more.
 

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