Crane for rigging

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Hi, i'll would have some feedback from you about a new tool born. You can see in the picture....

The WLL is 200 kilogram without negative rigging. Is born for work more safe. What do you think about it? when you have cut the block you lift it, after you can lower slowly the block. This sistem, in manifacturer's opinion, cancel the risks of the classic rigging. When you have cut and lower the block, you'll slide down the crane along the stem.

The wheight of the tool is 16 kilogram but is divided in 2 pices for be more handly. Please go ahead with your feedback for the idea, for the structure and for work safe. Thanks in advance for the time you'll dedicate.
 

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Sloth said:
Hi, i'll would have some feedback from you about a new tool born. You can see in the picture....

The WLL is 200 kilogram without negative rigging. Is born for work more safe. What do you think about it? when you have cut the block you lift it, after you can lower slowly the block. This sistem, in manifacturer's opinion, cancel the risks of the classic rigging. When you have cut and lower the block, you'll slide down the crane along the stem.

The wheight of the tool is 16 kilogram but is divided in 2 pices for be more handly. Please go ahead with your feedback for the idea, for the structure and for work safe. Thanks in advance for the time you'll dedicate.
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Interesting. I would like to see a video of it in use
 
I'm sorry but the manifacturer don't have video. Next week i'll go to take a workshop where the manifacturer will present the tool that has called crane for treeclimbing. I think that WLL is very low. To laugh.... this sistem is good for people that don't have a good groundman at the portwrap and the climber dueto this can eat a lot of bark shaking around the stem:risas:.

When i'll take the workshop i'll try to take a video. Maybe is good for the rescue on the stem.... when the climber use it.... an higher point is good....
 
Interesting concept for sure. I would have to see it in use to give any real feedback. I can imagine some uses but not sure I can imagine enough to warrant purchasing it.
 
Right consideration. I've the same problem. I've thought a lot of things like a lot of other guys and the final consideration is: i must see how work and how easy is to use it..... Treeclimbing and rigging must be easy with light tool becouse is enought hard work on the tree without other difficulties.
 
Yes Flyingsquirrel25 it has to be hoisted into the tree to be used. It must be set on the trunk, you cut the part of stem after the groundman lift it and after low it on the ground.... all without terrible forces and shocks..... after you move down "the crane" down and restart the procedure..... this up to the end of the stem..... So this "crane" that don't is a crane but an extendable pole is used only for disassemble the tree when remain the stem.... for disassemble the brances you use the normal tool for rigging (pulley, block and other...). This new tool creates an higher point over the stem for create a positive rigging when around don't are other trees for create this higher point. The second use is for the rescue, on the trunk, of an injured climber... and we know that is a big problem.....

To the other side this "crane" limit a lot the time for disassemble...... i think 200 Kilogramms WLL is little weight.... at the end of the trunk in some situation we must cut little washers (for respect the WLL) and will be hard to tie.....

Just i'll take the workshop, i'll can explain to all better the tool taking a video. So, like already said from Chiselbit, you can understand better how works.
 
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Often thought about something like this.. but never came up with a viable idea that solved all the issues... i don't tbink this does either...i highly doubt that a climber can cinche that up tight enough on every type of wood in the world efficiently all while working off of only a large spar to where he never has to worry about possible movement.
 
I think is a good idea for start and develop something better.... the only thing is to use only in very little situation.... for example where you can't arrive with a plattform and a crane and the tree is a lot decay where you can't let swing and load the tree.... in all other situation i see better the negative rigging with a good groundsman to the port wrap...... but if a guy don't have a good groundman or is afraid with negative rigging can be a good solution...
 
I have always been looking for a viable solution for spar rescue scenarios but have never seemed to come up with any functional ideas. This could be a potential solution to that problem. I definitely like the idea however I agree the previous posts that it is probably not practical. Love the concept though
 
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I have always been looking for a viable solution for spar rescue scenarios but have never seemed to come up with any functional ideas. This could be a potential solution to that problem. I definitely like the idea however I agree the previous posts that it is probably not practical. Love the concept though
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Spar rescue comes down mainly to how the climber is tied in. We practiced spar pole rescue on average of once a year and completed the task many ways (probably better in another thread). But I seriously doubt this "crane" will be of much help or use in a spar rescue situation... unless it is in place and being used and then it would probably be great. The biggest most important thing with AR is PRACTICE. Get on the spar and see what work and what doesn't!!!
 
Yes, i agree with you. I said can be a good idea for rescue but only when the guys is already working with this tool.... if you must climb up with this tool and set it on the top for the rescue is not applicable.... and if has his climb sistem ok you use it for descend him..... unfortunately to the presentation of this tool, nobody show us how really work and haw really slip down on the stem when you work with it..... the producer said me that in december arrive the video.....
 
Hi, i've saw only the tool but not working.... the producer explain all about it.... and show about how you can use it but not in real situation so for the video we must wait the official video of the producer. I talk with him and said that will put on youtube in december. Just i see it i'll write you the link and after you can give an real feedback. For now thanks to all.
 
It's a gin pole for trees... a device used for tower erection/removal for decades before I was born (and I'm 60). I'm rather surprised you just don't call it what is. Nice implementation, though. Looks well engineered and built.
 
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