Can you guesstimate how much safer you are?

There are other industries that became safer than tree worker because of a mindset change. Safety became a priority and the workers we allowed to work safely first. Tree work still has a problem with the macho, dick swinging mentality that kills and maims. Read the ANSI standards for safe work practices and follow them, no shortcuts. Be like the old bull, approach every job with slow deliberation, eyes wide open with a set plan to assess the tree, work zone, obstacles and hazards. Know your species and their strengths and weaknesses.

Learn about the gear used in this business and how they function together. Much of this you're intimately familiar with as a physics teacher. Research the local companies and how they market themselves to find the ones that do things professionally and safely. Hook up with one to get some insider knowledge. Start on the ground and learn how to be an effective groundman. Climb recreationally until you get the opportunity to climb professionally.

When my wife and I were dating she came out to the job and fell in love with it. She then began working as my ground person and understood what it took to do the job. I always talked about safety and the proper practices that gave her the sense that I took it seriously and understood the dangers. She always says, she's more concerned about the commute than the work!

It is not the work that makes our industry a leader in fatality and injury statistics, its the attitude. Avoid that and you'll do much better. As for stats, Dr. John Ball as mentioned and check out the drip line website for the news related to tree work including accidents. It's an eye opener but you'll very quickly see where the underlying problems lay.

I jumped back into the business at 43 and have not regretted it ever.
 
Biggest reason our industry is listed within top 10 most dangerous is all the jack-legs and newbies out there without proper training. I agree with the others. Do your homework. Take your time and assess what will happen. Everything should go as planned. If not, you have not planned properly...
 
^ Or they never kept up with the times and are still using dated techniques and gear.... oh yeah and they're super worn out and tired!!!
 
My experience is that if you work for yourself and don't have any bills, that you are the one that determines your own safety. If you work for someone else and have rent due, things can get a bit dicier. I would really look hard into the companies in your area, maybe try to set up rec. climbs and chat with folks in the industry in your area about who runs a tight ship and who doesn't. Even the safest folks out there can have their judgement affected by an underwater bid or a day that goes to shit if production is at risk. Finding a balance can be difficult even if you get paid by the hour.
 
Even the safest folks out there can have their judgement affected by an underwater bid or a day that goes to shit if production is at risk. Finding a balance can be difficult even if you get paid by the hour.
Boy, if that's not the truth!! It's amazing how a great, safe day can go to shit in a hurry when time starts crunching the leadership's nuts...
 
As a teacher myself, I think if you have never done tree work prior to teaching, you are suggesting madness to your wife. Do not start in the industry on your own. You have no one to learn from, watch, study,etc. There is untold benifit from being around a cagey old tree vet. I ageee with others, start as an employee with another company or a few during time off. Teaching and tree work can be a profitable combination but you have to be well trained to make it work. Do not leave your career to TRY something. It has taken a long time to grow to a point where I am established in both but the combination does work well if you are trained. Safety is a personal decision. If you decide to be as safe as possible you can be but if you decide to be ignorant of what is possible than catastrophy awaits. Do not think that by reading the buzz and watching some video you are ready to run your own show.
 
Good stuff about getting into the field and safety -- thanks. You guys are even making me feel better about the possible job switch. I’ll admit that Treehumper’s accident had me a bit concerned, since it happened to an experienced, conscientious climber, so I was glad that he wasn’t trying to dissuade me. Taking my wife to the job is something I hadn’t thought about -- might work. Also like the idea of taking a course before I start.


I sometimes feel like a moth drawn to the flame of tree work, against my own better judgement. I could make other job moves, but there’s something about the combined mental and physical challenge of tree work that I just can’t shake. Sort of reminds of sailing in that regard. I’ve read a few books -- including ANSI, read TCIA’s mag each month-- especially the accident reports, practiced knots, viewed too many videos, used to read AS forums until I found the buzz and now spend too much time figuring out what you guys are saying. I did attend our state’s climbing competition and then finally worked for a great company that let me try groundie life for a few days. They called me back, but I wasn’t then quite ready to switch.


I like the people (and equipment) in the company and know I could get along with them, but I think their safety practices are still evolving. Used to not wear helmets (saw an old video) or chaps, but that has changed. Later I’ll bug you guys with specific questions about their practices.


Earlier I thought I would quickly try to establish my own company, but after seeing some quality companies and listening to some of you guys for so long, I think I might be just as comfortable sticking with a good group instead. Latest plan is to dip into savings for a couple years while I work the ground, gain general experience, and practice climbing on the side, then hopefully move to climber and see what happens from there.
 
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