brush bandit 200XP 12" chipper, JD 4.5 diesel

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Re: brush bandit 200XP 12\" chipper, JD 4.5 diesel

Is the JD 4.5 an 80 hp engine? I've bought and sold many chippers, I don't think those prices are all that outta line.
 
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callin it like it is, find me chippers in this condition with jd diesel engines for 6500 and ill buy 20 of them today. marlin be careful what you say, theres alot of psychos out there : )

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wow. almost like a threat.

Don't let forum text bother you too much. It's just text, the psychos are the ones that want to take it to a whole new level and actually cause physical harm or loss.

I sold a 200+ with around 1800 hours on the machine, and with a new cummins engine I got new and only had 150 hours on it when I sold it.

I sold for $6200 or $6500, I can't quite remember.

The John Deere is a great engine, the 115hp version is great and should help make the machine more valuable.

I think the 4.5L can range from 80, 99, or 115hp. ?

I think a fair price for a 200XP in good shape with 1500 to 1800 hours would be low, $6500. medium $7500. high $8500.

but maybe I'm out of the loop recently too.

I would think prices would be near rock bottom right now with so many people getting out of business.

My brother just bought a 2008 bandit 1890 with 200hp or 250hp john deere, i think like 500hours? and all the options (not loader arm), for $35,000. Like new condition.

Prices are really low right now.
 
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As for you machine with 1500-1800 hours with a "new" cummins eng. w/150 hours on it when you sold it. If the chipper had only 1500-1800 total hours, why did it need an engine (unless it had been terribly abused) and if it was abused then many other items on the machine probably needed attention (cutter disc bearings, feed wheel bearings/couples, etc.). So, after other necessary repairs it perhaps would turn into a $10k chipper.
 
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callin it like it is, find me chippers in this condition with jd diesel engines for 6500 and ill buy 20 of them today. marlin be careful what you say, theres alot of psychos out there : )

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wow. almost like a threat.

Don't let forum text bother you too much. It's just text, the psychos are the ones that want to take it to a whole new level and actually cause physical harm or loss.

I sold a 200+ with around 1800 hours on the machine, and with a new cummins engine I got new and only had 150 hours on it when I sold it.

I sold for $6200 or $6500, I can't quite remember.

The John Deere is a great engine, the 115hp version is great and should help make the machine more valuable.

I think the 4.5L can range from 80, 99, or 115hp. ?

I think a fair price for a 200XP in good shape with 1500 to 1800 hours would be low, $6500. medium $7500. high $8500.

but maybe I'm out of the loop recently too.

I would think prices would be near rock bottom right now with so many people getting out of business.

My brother just bought a 2008 bandit 1890 with 200hp or 250hp john deere, i think like 500hours? and all the options (not loader arm), for $35,000. Like new condition.

Prices are really low right now.

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thats a super good buy for a 1890, glad to hear your brother found a deal !!!, i have a dynamic 510 witch is comparable to a 1890. 190 hp cat engine. winch, hydraulic shute, only 190 hours , priced at 34,000. i dont feel my prices are at all out of line for a fully serviced work ready piece of equipment, unlike alot of sellers out there i stand behind everything i sell. none of my equipment is sold as is
 
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Not to derail but I found a hell of a deal 6 months ago at an auction. I bought a 200+ for $3,000.
 
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derail away this guy bought all his stuff at auction for top dollar and then prices it to sell for more than what it's worth. a couple of his bucket units look real familiar from an auction i went to in memphis in october. a truck just like this one http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=259930&an=0&page=0#259930 sold at a way over priced 16,500 at auction he probably has 10,000 in it and wants in the 35,000 range for a non diesel rig that gets 5 miles to the gallon. what a joke.
 
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59,000.00 is the buy it now price.Remember jeff this is the elevator boom so they have alot higher re sale.I actually seen one a year or two ago that needed a minor repair that sold for 20k at an auction(may i add stuff was going high that day).It was the same former asplundh truck,gas with 75" reach.After buyers fee 22,000.00,new paint 1500.00(they probably do it there self or got some dude who does it dirt cheap at his crib),shipping 1000.00 and minor repair and miss stuff (boom testing)maybe 2500.00,recovered seat and chrome simulators 1000.00.So I figure 28 k invested-maybe max 30.So if something is sold for 60 grand that would a heck of a score.Plus if it breaks down a month later your problably your probably COL.Not saying this is how you do it or this is your particular truck , just what ive seen alot of.It would be nice if dealers would stand behind there stuff and give a true warranty to stuff they are making a premium profit on.Really go thru every nook and cranny and certify the equipment and offer a real warranty.Trust me I know theres your taking a big risk buying stuff at an auction,you could spend 20 grand on a lemon and be stuck with it.But what scares me is when guys buy stuff,clean it up and flip it for double and its still ends up being that lemon.
 
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As for the post above on the elevator unit. What none of you seem to be figuring into the equation is your "TIME", you can not put even a marginally acceptable paint on a bucket truck for $1500, even a little bit of boom work at a reputable shop will cost $2500 (for little/simple stuff) and will climb from there easily hitting $5000-$10000 for moderate repairs. Dielectric test will set you back and average of $200-$300 depending on the shop. (Now, speaking of just the truck), Just about all Asplund units bought at auction need a full clutch assembly, some transmission work (if not a full replacement), front end work, cab interior work (gauges, electric, etc., not just a seat cover), the pony motors always need something, often the rear ends need work because they have constantly been "hammered". So let's say you do the work yourself, it will hit (easily) $4k-$7k in parts (and can be more) plus a LOT of your TIME. Now let's talk paint. To properly prep one (even if the body is "straight") will take at least 40-55 hours. The paint (primer/top coat) will cost several hundreds of dollars (for "economy" paint). Then the time to actually do the painting. I KNOW I have done several of these for my own company. They always require more TIME and MONEY than you expect.
 
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well i guess things are cheaper here,i know 2 guys that paint buckets for that.Remember this is a paint job to sale it so its white but not real good.I agree if your going to paint something right its closer to 5k,but most dealers would be fools to pay that,they already have to much invested.But if you get one and have no major repairs and the auction prices are really low you could turn a 35k profit if you sold one for 60k.I guess thats the nature of alot of dealers is to spend as little as possible to make as much as possible.We have bought several asplundh units between my families companies and none of us have had to replace a clutch right off the bat.In fact weve never had any real major repairs on any except one lemon I had..
 
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For curiosity, the "lemon" you mentioned. What type of repairs had to be made and how much money did you have to spend to get it "right"?
 
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All kinds of stuff went wrong.broke 2 rear axles, but it was mainly engine problems thing backfired like crazy.I replaced the motor and It still backfired.Come to find out I didnt even need to replace the motor,they fixed the backfiring problem then the rear end started going out.So i traded it for an ex trees inc diesel truck,which hasnt given me any problems.Yeah the biggest problem I think with the asplundh truck it was a 5500 and not a larger one like the rest.I wanted to blow it up.
 
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As for you machine with 1500-1800 hours with a "new" cummins eng. w/150 hours on it when you sold it. If the chipper had only 1500-1800 total hours, why did it need an engine (unless it had been terribly abused) and if it was abused then many other items on the machine probably needed attention (cutter disc bearings, feed wheel bearings/couples, etc.). So, after other necessary repairs it perhaps would turn into a $10k chipper.

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yes, i would assume that if i were you as well.

The 200+ was in very good shape, almost excellent. After a 2 week vacation. We came back to work, we used to check oil and grease regularly, but back then, we didn't check water all the time.

anyway, the lower hose had a leak we didn't know about and ALL of the water leaked out during the vacation. The first work day back from vacation; Machine got too hot, didn't show it with any steam because no water to steam. Tell tail switch for too hot didn't work apparently either. I was up in the top of a tree, chipper was running and I heard it start to sputter every now and then, I motioned frantically for groundman to shut it down, he wasn't mechanical and didn't even realize chipper was sounding different, by the time he figured out what I was motioning, it was sounding aweful and blowing smoke when he shut it down. engine warped and lots of damage, cheaper to buy an new engine.

I put in the new engine, with oil preluber system for start up and shut down lubing and a whole second set of gauges on the back of the rear fender with warning lights so people feeding chipper can view see everything.

I had two chippers and ready to run two crews, then divorce so I went down to one chipper again to start things over.

That's the only reason why I sold it, I had a brand new bandit 254 and it made sense if I was to only have one chipper to sell the other one.

There is that enough for you. I can attach pictures of it if you like.

Sold it to someone I know and they have been very happy with it.
 
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thats a super good buy for a 1890, glad to hear your brother found a deal !!!, i have a dynamic 510 witch is comparable to a 1890. 190 hp cat engine. winch, hydraulic shute, only 190 hours , priced at 34,000. i dont feel my prices are at all out of line for a fully serviced work ready piece of equipment, unlike alot of sellers out there i stand behind everything i sell. none of my equipment is sold as is

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I just texted him to make sure I was right.

I was wrong, it's even better.

Its an Bandit 1990 with only 160 hours on it and a 213HP engine. Like new.


$35,000.
 
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as for the comments on the 75 foot elevator trucks,

these trucks cost a minimum of 30,000 to get quality trucks in the shop, we sell some of the best trucks out there, when other dealers i nthe forestry equipment biz have 99's and 00's for 65,000 for the same truck, i have 02's and 03's for 55,000 unpainted. and 59,000 painted.

these trucks come in, we go completly through them. engine, trans, brakes all the way around, 6 brand new tires, seat, boom gets all nessary updates, di-electric tested, certified and inspected. pony motor usually needs a rebuild, all of the trucks i sell come with a real deal warranty good anywhere in the country. i hope this gives you guys a little insight on the reality of this business.
 
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-GMC-...ercialQ5fTrucks
I know this is not even close to what you listed-but it amazes me how cheap stuff is right now.Literally this is cheaper than an auction price a couple years ago.

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that unit is mis represented, That is an LR 4, it is not a 60' unit. It is listed in other places as an LR 4 without a mention of the height. but for the most part I agree with you on being skeptical about buying something used, alot of people have no conscience about the products they are selling. Let the buyer beware.
 
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i wont even sell a 97 bucket truck, i would have to put 10,000 into the boom to update it and have it certified, 11,000 for that truck is reasonable being its basically sold as is where is and if it dies tomorrow, oh well lol. i sell 2002 gmc 60 foot forestry bodies unpainted for around 19,000 painted for 23,000 witch is WAY cheaper then my competitors , theres a HUGE difference in the technology applied to the construction of forestry trucks from 97 to 2002
 
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