Best sources of employees?

@ATH resort skiing anymore is a complete rip off, and the vibe has been eroded by overcrowding of entitled assholery… The people that still get after it (the type I’d want to recruit) you’d have a hell of a time convincing them to leave the mountains, and the lifestyle for the Midwest. I mean absolutely no disrespect by that, I grew up in central Wisconsin, just being honest!!
Oh, I know! I'd rather be in the mountains...heck, I'd even take hills! I'm in flat, flat farm country. I recognize that's always going to make it hard to recruit people from out of area.
 
@ATH I don’t know what they’re farming in your zone, but I’d be trying to pick up some farm hands looking to make extra money, or build a career beyond the farming. Farmer strength is about the only comparable to tree person strength I’ve found. Well, I did have a old stone mason working for me awhile back, he was a savage too…..
 
Utility snags some pretty good guys around here, pay and benefits are hard to compete with but they’re struggling to find quality entry level groundies at $21/hr with no employee cost insurance. On the other side of the coin I’ve seen some really good guys get burnt out on utility and say screw it and take the pay cut but absolutely love the resi side. being happier at the end of the day is worth more than the pay to some.
 
Anybody every try and have success with ZipRecruiter/Monster/GetJob/Career Builder/Indeed?

I looked at ZipRecruiter. Their model seems backwards. Even to post a single job, you pay per month (I think it was like $200-ish). What is their motivation to help get that filled quickly? Probably their sweet spot is 1 month +1 day, so they say they filled it quickly and, but get 2 full months of payment. If, on the other hand, they said something like: "$1000 up front and we'll refund $100 per month that we don't find somebody." I might be more interested...I'd feel like we were on the same team. I don't want just anybody (ever hear the phrase "hire slow, fire fast"?), so I don't want the process rushed either...

I posted a job on LinkedIn (created a profile just for that purpose). Got 2 responses...one was a good option, but decided to stay at his current job. I didn't pay to boost that or anything, but may revisit doing so in the late winter/early spring.
 
I frequent indeed, problem at least in my area any of the industry buzz words (tree, forestry, apprentice, grounds, plant etc) tends to drown out most of the legitimate industry jobs with any kind of landscape, mowing, or industrial “plant” jobs. Although it’s still where most municipalities post outside of their direct websites. An option we started doing a couple years ago was going to the regional high school trade schools and doing a demo, having the kids interested ascend a little bit and bring awareness to the industry as we’re trying to bring light to us as a skilled trade not just Bobby with a chainsaw
 
Anybody every try and have success with ZipRecruiter/Monster/GetJob/Career Builder/Indeed?

I looked at ZipRecruiter. Their model seems backwards. Even to post a single job, you pay per month (I think it was like $200-ish). What is their motivation to help get that filled quickly? Probably their sweet spot is 1 month +1 day, so they say they filled it quickly and, but get 2 full months of payment. If, on the other hand, they said something like: "$1000 up front and we'll refund $100 per month that we don't find somebody." I might be more interested...I'd feel like we were on the same team. I don't want just anybody (ever hear the phrase "hire slow, fire fast"?), so I don't want the process rushed either...

I posted a job on LinkedIn (created a profile just for that purpose). Got 2 responses...one was a good option, but decided to stay at his current job. I didn't pay to boost that or anything, but may revisit doing so in the late winter/early spring.
I have tried all of those over the years, and have never once found a reliable, decent candidate. In my experience, people in the tree industry do not use websites like that.
 
Had a thought...tell me if this sounds like a bad idea. First, some data points/assumptions:

1) At any given time nationally anyhow, 40-50% of people want to leave their job because they don't like it, feel undervalued, aren't satisfied, low pay, etc... So the pickings are there, we just need to lure them.

2) I think we have a relatively higher job satisfaction rate...its a great job, if the money is there.

3) I go to the gym a couple nights per week. See a lot of the same faces, but don't really know anybody. Certainly don't know what they do for a living.

4) I'm thinking people going to the gym on a regular basis would prefer a physically active job.

5) People dedicated to going to the gym are less likely to be stoners who cannot figure out how to show up.

(maybe I'm doing a lot of projecting here, because I know me pretty well and, of course, all reasonable people think like me! :rolleyes: )

Anyhow, to the point: Is the gym a good place to recruit workers? Probably not experienced tree workers...but I'm OK with that. If somebody wants to be active, work outside, and is willing to learn, I can get them there.

If so, how do I connect? I'm not a real outgoing guy that's going to strike up conversations with people wearing earbuds working out. That's pretty much everybody and I take that as a hint "I don't want to talk to you". So I get to thinking: "how can I invite conversation about tree work with the right people?" I need them to ask me. How about I make up some t-shirts with corny puns about tree work to see if that leads to people asking me about a job:

Most jobs are boring
Working on trees is Arboring

Wood you like to work outside?
Ask me how.

Leaf the ordinary below and climb trees.

Pining for a new career?
The trees are calling!


(would people whose second language is English get some of those?)

thoughts?
 
I think as an industry we need to look at why are so many are going the route of contract climbing or starting there own business. Those seem to be what most are looking for. Guys like that are looking for more money and room to grow and advance. I understand that tree work is a young man's game so to speak. But where does an employee go as he begins to age. You can't climb and drag brush forever.

If I could have found a company that had those opportunities I would still be an employee. I am a better tree guy then I am a businessman. Not sure if that isn't part of the problem

This is probably more for me then anything.
For me:
-safety was lacking
-pay would never approach the amount needed to get a house in my area
-almost all workers did side jobs to supplement (which was necessary to make any financial headway)
-lack of flexibility, lack of positive/wage reinforcement for productivity/safety/attitude
-badgered to return to work asap when injured
-no talk or training about correct body positioning or phys therapy etc to maximize health and longevity
Basically just treated as disposable and assume one would rent for rest of sore life
 

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