Articulating Loaders Stability

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Dave, strictly from a stability standpoint, how did the Boxer articulated loaders compare with the Gehls?


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First of all the Gehls are American made in South Dakota, They are basically clones of the German made Nueson (Wacker private labels them). gehl private labels the German Nueson wheel loaders and Mini excavators, there are Nueson components on their "American made" articulating series.
The Boxer is the Italian made Multione, marketed here for about 10 years under Multi one and Multi trac names also.
The "Boxer" Articulated are no longer supported by Boxer, for about a year and a half now.
http://www.multione-csf.com/en/1-homepage.html
SEXY machines, lots of plastic
This Company in Canada is now selling them and is the only North American current factory parts source.
http://www.montrealtractor.com/default.htm

Ok STABILITY between the multi's and the new Gehls
The Multis have a lower center of Gravity, and shorter
float tires then the Gehl. The Gehl 140 is the closest to the 20 and 30 series Multis, with its 40" wheelbase, with its taller float tires it would be LESS stable that's why I came up with the Duals. The Gehl 340s with their 50" wide stance are much stabile and comparable to the small swingers (100 series).
The Multis are pretty amazing and in my opinion are over/under engineered for the incredible specs they have. Tree guys and landscapers that consistently max out these specs experience metal fatigue and failure in the boom arms and the self leveling option.
Plastic/Fiberglass shrouds and covers also have a hard time surviving. time Put the two side by side and from a metal standpoint the Multi looks homeowner duty next to the Gehl commercial Duty, as the gross weights would indicate ~2200#s to 3800#s. Comparison Examples
GehlBoxer3-1.jpg

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These Machines list for about the same money, click picture for Video
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Also, with your extensive experience with the Swinger loaders, how would you rate them in stability- as compared to the German built machines?

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I can only speak for the Gehl clone of the German Nueson
Not so sure I have extensive knowledge on swingers, for years they were about the only game in town. I owned three over the years all used 100 series (old history). Eric (treecareinc) probably has more recent field experience with them then I.
I always loved my swingers for there heavy steel frames and turf friendly characteristics.
Just guessing the Gehl 340 would compare closer to the swinger 100 series, the Gehl 540 to the Swinger 200 series.
I would say there stability would be close, with the larger swingers winning over the 540 sheerly by outweighing it. One advantage that Swinger has done right for our industry is offering wide 15" float tires, to Gehls piddly 12" wide turf tires. I am working on Gehl to get a wider Rim to accommodate wider floats for all 3 models.(might put my branch manager dual biz out of biz)

Corporately swinger started in MN, and has been bought out and sold several times, now made in MI. They have apparently have made some big changes in the design of the new ones, turning the Eng 90 degrees, I heard a dealer lament that his customers were not liking these new models. Not sure what that was about (just change? flaws?) maybe someone here has new and old swinger Experience?
Don't mean to sound like I am starting a self serving Rumor.

All I know is ARTICULATING LOADERS ARE THE BEST for forwarding tree debris on any lawn.

Gehl 340 examples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrJ-27O8YcE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P9vXtotCdY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3fJ14oivio
 
On the "American Made" Gehls, do they incorporate metric or SAE fittings/fasteners etc,? Also, what "brand" of hydraulic/hydrostatic pumps do they use? What axles do they utilize? Although, built/assembled in the US, I am curious to learn if they incorporate any "domestic" components.

As for the new Swinger 2K, I have been around it and everything that we all loved about a Swinger has been designed out of the new machine. Overall visibility has decreased (particularly off the rear of the machine), ease of getting on/off the machine has decreased (also, now you can only access the operator platform from the LH side), visibility of your attachment (particularly the "edges") has diminished considerably (especially when articulated or when the arms are partially raised). The only real "positive" of the 2K is the much better designed center joint. If you could cut the joint assembly off the 2K and put it on a 2000, you would have the perfect machine.
 

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