45° limbs

[Bart_]

Have to admit big willow bark is pretty thick and chunky near the bottom. I guess the question becomes has the tree been pollarded such that its chunky bark right up to the sprouts. If so I'd easily concur with spurs.

But you'll impress the hell out of the customer if they see you suspended in space doing the spiderman. Could generate word of mouth referrals.

potayto potahto I never really considered girth vs choke before. But I envisage a Moss SRT lanyard for choke now, maybe also SRT spar lifeline RW/hitch. girthing a sling rings true to me

 

[moss]

Don’t confuse clients with this stuff.
They want solutions not conundrums.

I agree. Take a stand on what you think is the best way for you as a skilled and knowledgeable practitioner to do the job.
-AJ

 

[southsoundtree]

Hi All
I have a job coming up for a multi stem willow that needs re pollarding (i didn't do the previous pollard). All 4 of the limbs have aprox 45° lean with minimal leaders on to climb up to anchor in the growth at the top anchor points are not very large to anchor in either.
How would you guys approach this job i dont have access to a mewp either.
All hrlp is appreciated
Thanks in advance

Welcome.

Pictures are worth 1000 words

 

[Matias]

I agree. Take a stand on what you think is the best way for you as a skilled and knowledgeable practitioner to do the job.
-AJ

I don't think giving the client a choice means that you are a wishy-washy hack either. You can take a stand AND offer a choice.

I say, "I don't usually climb non-removals with spikes, but since this tree has already been so mistreated, and all we are talking about here is continuing with that treatment method, I could work much quicker with spikes on and offer you an $900 discount. If you prefer I do it in accordance with current industry best practices, it'll be the full $2700"

I timed myself, and I can say that slowly and clearly in less than 25 seconds. I'm new to this, but so far when I have offered this option, one guy chose the discount and one said do it the "right" way. Since the preferences in my sample size of 2 are split 50/50, I will continue to take the few seconds to allow folks to choose.

I know some people will gravitate towards the Moss and Mick approach and be glad that you guys frame the conversation the way you do. They don't wanna think about their trees, they just want them cut. The people I have gotten call backs from usually know some about trees and plants, and they like that I can teach them a little more while I'm there, especially if I am actually working on the tree and not just bidding the work.

I have also gone to do bids and talked with them for a few minutes, determined that I was not the right guy for that particular job- usually jobs that I don't have the equipment to clean up in the way and timeframe required- but let them know what they probably want and how to ask for it, and most folks sound really grateful for the bits of knowledge I drop on my way out.

Different strokes for different folks. Find your own way.

 

[moss]

Welcome.

Pictures are worth 1000 words

"Welcome", best comment.

Funny, I feel like I've already looked at the photo that doesn't exist! Who needs Chatgpt? The imagination and a bit of experience paints the picture. Photos are helpful for sure.
-AJ

 

[moss]

I don't think giving the client a choice means that you are a wishy-washy hack either. You can take a stand AND offer a choice.

I say, "I don't usually climb non-removals with spikes, but since this tree has already been so mistreated, and all we are talking about here is continuing with that treatment method, I could work much quicker with spikes on and offer you an $900 discount. If you prefer I do it in accordance with current industry best practices, it'll be the full $2700"

I timed myself, and I can say that slowly and clearly in less than 25 seconds. I'm new to this, but so far when I have offered this option, one guy chose the discount and one said do it the "right" way. Since the preferences in my sample size of 2 are split 50/50, I will continue to take the few seconds to allow folks to choose.

I know some people will gravitate towards the Moss and Mick approach and be glad that you guys frame the conversation the way you do. They don't wanna think about their trees, they just want them cut. The people I have gotten call backs from usually know some about trees and plants, and they like that I can teach them a little more while I'm there, especially if I am actually working on the tree and not just bidding the work.

I have also gone to do bids and talked with them for a few minutes, determined that I was not the right guy for that particular job- usually jobs that I don't have the equipment to clean up in the way and timeframe required- but let them know what they probably want and how to ask for it, and most folks sound really grateful for the bits of knowledge I drop on my way out.

Different strokes for different folks. Find your own way.

Excellent response. I used words that imply "wishy washy" if you don't take a stand. Did not mean it quite that way.

If I had done a better job of thinking and writing my post it would be something like "Come up with your best plan, present it to the customer. Answer questions and educate along the way".
-AJ

 

[Matias]

Excellent response. I used words that imply "wishy washy" if you don't take a stand. Did not mean it quite that way.

If I had done a better job of thinking and writing my post it would be something like "Come up with your best plan, present it to the customer. Answer questions and educate along the way".
-AJ

Thanks Andrew! That means a lot to me, coming from you. I was a lurker here for almost three years before I made an account, and I always valued your words and your style.