Cost of stepping off the ground

islandarb · May 31, 2023

Njdelaney said:
You just like bragging about your preferred gear @islandarb I'm waiting on one of your chesties to arrive from Wesspur to see if it's preferred to my neck tether. If I like it, my off the ground cost will go up.

And dynaglide my preferred throwline.

Friedrich · May 31, 2023

i had a similar conversation with a friend who is a farmer, he was amazed how little i need to do my work compared to farmers.

climbingmonkey24 · May 31, 2023

islandarb said:
Oh crap I forgot throwlines. Lets add 600. Three Falteimers with harrison rockets.

Can never have enough throw balls.

Just lost one way up in an oak not too long ago. Decided to just cut the throw line rather than spend the time trying to fetch it. Couldn’t even see where it was stuck actually lol

islandarb · May 31, 2023

climbingmonkey24 said:
Can never have enough throw balls.

Just lost one way up in an oak not too long ago. Decided to just cut the throw line rather than spend the time trying to fetch it. Couldn’t even see where it was stuck actually lol

I actually have 5 cubes setup. 2 are Treezers from Wesspur.

GregManning · May 31, 2023

climbingmonkey24 said:
Can never have enough throw balls.

Just lost one way up in an oak not too long ago. Decided to just cut the throw line rather than spend the time trying to fetch it. Couldn’t even see where it was stuck actually lol

Hope that does fall out & hit someone in the head ? !

Reach · May 31, 2023

GregManning said:
Hope that does fall out & hit someone in the head ? !

Same here. I have never left behind a throw ball, though there have been a few I would like to have left. Those things get stuck in some of the worst places!

climbingmonkey24 · May 31, 2023

If you’re telling me that I’m the only one on here who has ever left a throw ball stuck who knows where in a tree where you can’t even see it…lol ok.

climbingmonkey24 · May 31, 2023

Reach said:
Same here. I have never left behind a throw ball, though there have been a few I would like to have left. Those things get stuck in some of the worst places!

And normally I ALWAYS try to go after a stuck throw ball too. But in this case I couldn’t even see it even while in the tree, it was a large oak that had a ton of small branches and stuff, was in a wide open area, and I was working solo and just didn’t want to be bothered with it at that point because I was already frustrated.

If that’s considered unacceptable, so be it. Not saying it was right, but I’m not going to worry about it either. As if nobody else has ever made a decision in the heat of the moment and looked back later on and realize they could’ve done things differently, right?

climbingmonkey24 · May 31, 2023

And I actually did climb up there to try and get it, but I couldn’t find it.

Guess we’ll have to take the tree down now.

Tuebor · May 31, 2023

I always get them down even if I have to cut them out with a pole saw/pruner. With my luck it would fall on a kid's head months later.

climbingmonkey24 · May 31, 2023

Tuebor said:
I always get them down even if I have to cut them out with a pole saw/pruner. With my luck it would fall on a kid's head months later.

Was up there with my 25ft pole saw trying to do just that, but I couldn’t find it.

I wonder if I should contact the customer and said I think I might’ve forgot something in the tree and go back to try and get it?

The thing is I also pulled on that sucker as hard as I could to try and yank it out and it didn’t budge, so it’s probably wedged in there real good.

Wasn’t really worried about it until reading yours and @GregManning post.

GregManning · May 31, 2023

climbingmonkey24 said:
And normally I ALWAYS try to go after a stuck throw ball too. But in this case I couldn’t even see it even while in the tree, it was a large oak that had a ton of small branches and stuff, was in a wide open area, and I was working solo and just didn’t want to be bothered with it at that point because I was already frustrated.

If that’s considered unacceptable, so be it. Not saying it was right, but I’m not going to worry about it either. As if nobody else has ever madAe a decision in the heat of the moment and looked back later on and realize they could’ve done things differently, right?

OK, you did due diligence. I wasn't trying to be mean.

Year's ago I judged a TCC throw line event in Indiana.
A truely world-class climber (ITCC Masters) became frustrated. Instead of an underhand (normal) toss, he threw it over-hand base ball style. It didn't come out; line broke. He went up after the comp; and but could not find it.

Stuff happens.

Reach · May 31, 2023

Tuebor said:
I always get them down even if I have to cut them out with a pole saw/pruner. With my luck it would fall on a kid's head months later.

That is my fear as well. Twice now, we have found throw balls left behind by other companies. One time, we found one that was stuck up in the tree. The other time, while working on a tree, we rattled one loose and it did fall down. Fortunately it did not hit anybody, because those things can do some damage. I would not want to be stuck with a lawsuit for negligence over a throw ball.

Njdelaney · May 31, 2023

Getting a stuck throwball out of a bad spot has pushed me to climb outside of my comfort zone(in a healthy, growth kinda way) and/or find a creative solution on at least four or five different occasions. I came back 2 weeks later to a public park here in Detroit to get one out of the very top of a big American Elm and it felt great to come away victorious with throwball in hand.

climbingmonkey24 · May 31, 2023

Reach said:
That is my fear as well. Twice now, we have found throw balls left behind by other companies. One time, we found one that was stuck up in the tree. The other time, while working on a tree, we rattled one loose and it did fall down. Fortunately it did not hit anybody, because those things can do some damage. I would not want to be stuck with a lawsuit for negligence over a throw ball.

You’ve never left a throw ball behind, great. So any company that ever has left a throw ball behind must not be a good company I guess and negligent.

Tom Dunlap · May 31, 2023

Friedrich said:
i had a similar conversation with a friend who is a farmer, he was amazed how little i need to do my work compared to farmers.

Wait a second.

My query is about getting a climber kitted up with PPE in order to get off the ground.

If a farmer stood at the side of their tractor what job specific PPE would they wear? How much would it cost?

My guess....boots...maybe eye and ear protection. Not included in the farmer tally would be PPE required for applying fertilizers or pesticides. Nor the cost of machinery

GregManning · May 31, 2023

Tom Dunlap said:
Wait a second.

My query is about getting a climber kitted up with PPE in order to get off the ground.

If a farmer stood at the side of their tractor what job specific PPE would they wear? How much would it cost?

My guess....boots...maybe eye and ear protection. Not included in the farmer tally would be PPE required for applying fertilizers or pesticides. Nor the cost of machinery

Sorry. We do get derailed very easily. Maybe after only 5-10 posts.

Tom Dunlap · May 31, 2023

GregManning said:
Sorry. We do get derailed very easily. Maybe after only 5-10 posts.

LOL

FYI...this is NOT an example of my iron fisted moderation. Just as nudge to stay on the same road.

Reach · May 31, 2023

climbingmonkey24 said:
You’ve never left a throw ball behind, great. So any company that ever has left a throw ball behind must not be a good company I guess and negligent.

You seem to be taking my words and adding meaning to them that is not there.

I see leaving a throw ball behind as potentially negligent, yes, because those things can do damage and a throwball in a tree is directly caused by the person who put it there. It is not the same as a dead branch that might fall on someone’s head, so yes, a throwball that fell out of a tree and hit somebody would be the responsibility of the person who left it there.