HHXF with DMM director yoke carabiner?

Phil

Phil

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Oak Lawn, IL
I bought the HHXF without captive eye swing arm. I like it but I'm looking to make it carabiner attachable so I don't have to work the slic pin to remove it from my bridge ring. I didn't want the rock exotica swivel eye carabiner that is an offered attachment option because I don't like swivels. And so the wheels began to turn. Dmm has a sale going on so I decided to spend some money on a few unique carabineers. My options are the director yolk with a rated ring. A Perfecto with lock bar and ring, or the Ceros spring lock with a ring. My preferred choice is the director because it's compact and minimizes ring movement around the carabiner. Looking for thoughts from the group as to any issues I may not be seeing right out of the gate. Thoughts? Comments, concerns?
 

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Are you concerned about cross loading your carabineer? Like stated above, take the ring out or attach the ring to your saddle/bridge and then that last wire gate carabineer, to that and capture the ring side with wire and just clip right in to hh...

That director with the ring doesn't quite look right. I feel like it should be a soft textile connection.
 
Njdelaney said:
Is there a reason not to attach the yoke end to your bridge and the carabiner end to the HHXF, and leave the ring out entirely? It would shorten the system and accomplish the same thing. Just curious on your rationale.
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Thats a really good observation. I hadn't even looked at that as an option. I'll mock that up and see how it feels/functions.

The rational is that I generally don't want anything permanently attached to my bridge and I was trying to mimic in a way the original attachment setup from the HH2, which this is replacing. Also, the captive eye shackle and Rock exocitca swivel options Richard sells look more like my current config with the ring. Mine has more slop for sure though. My chest attachment for SRS would attach to the ring, but I suppose I can just as easily find a way to attach it to the carabiner if I put my bridge through the yoke.

I'm glad I asked cus I doubt I would have looked at it as you did.
 
flyingmosstreen said:
That director with the ring doesn't quite look right. I feel like it should be a soft textile connection.
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The instructions do show it is a textile attachment but do not say to not put a ring in it. The strength of the yoke comes from the bolt through the center, not the red bushing piece. there might be some wear between ring and red bushing, but as long as I'm not overloading it I think structurally it would be fine.
 
I have a Director with a large swivel shackle and I have the swivel end in the HHXF swing arm, with the carabiner end clipped to my bridge. I use the shackle as my place to clip my neck tender to and that works great. I think in your case, with the yoke on your bridge, as long as you have the gate oriented on the down/away side, you can clip your chester right to the carabiner. Without the ring, it will orient just right because there isn't excessive range of motion to cause trouble. And just in case anyone is worried, my Director is currently not in my possession. It's with DMM getting whatever they're doing to fix them done.
 
Phil said:
yes. everything as is in the first picture and then the carabiner gets connected to a ring on my bridge.
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Eff that! I couldn't stand all that floppiness and clanging metal.

Rope bridge through the Director Yolk, or a Director Captive Eye, and clip straight to the HH. I just saw someone in Facebook world with that setup.

Do you consider a ring as something that is permanently attached to your bridge?
 
Tuebor said:
Eff that! I couldn't stand all that floppiness and clanging metal.

Rope bridge through the Director Yolk, or a Director Captive Eye, and clip straight to the HH. I just saw someone in Facebook world with that setup.

Do you consider a ring as something that is permanently attached to your bridge?
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yeah, the floppiness is something I was looking at. Still early in the streamlining process. I'll likely just put the yoke on the bridge. While a ring is permanently on my bridge, I don't consider it to be a part of the climbing device. The idea is that I can take my hitch device setup to another harness whenever I want. If my director yoke is on my harness, I'm stuck with my harness. Not a huge deal and I think I'll get used to the new config easy enough.
 
L3VI said:
Is this a new device from pctree?
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the hhxf is from Climbing Innovations.

climbing-innovations.myshopify.com

HitchHikerXF (Expo Special) WITH OUT Captive Eye Swing Arm

With Captive Eye The HHxf is a unique device in the world of multicenders (a device that allows movement up, down, and laterally with little to no configuration change). It is the only device that combines the load bearing anchor point with the required single rope tending point and allows for...
climbing-innovations.myshopify.com climbing-innovations.myshopify.com
 
Njdelaney said:
I think in your case, with the yoke on your bridge, as long as you have the gate oriented on the down/away side, you can clip your chester right to the carabiner.
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I went ahead and set this thing up with the yoke on my bridge. I faced the gate towards me because if I put it on the downward side, the belly of the HHXF swing arm would ride up and down on the inside of the gate during ascents and weighting. I wasn't thrilled with that. With the gate towards me, the swing arm just glides along the inside of the carabiner spine. Nice and smooth. My chest connection fits nice on the carabiner above the top of the gate during ascent. I was overthinking it with the ring in the yoke idea.
 
Phil said:
I went ahead and set this thing up with the yoke on my bridge. I faced the gate towards me because if I put it on the downward side, the belly of the HHXF swing arm would ride up and down on the inside of the gate during ascents and weighting. I wasn't thrilled with that. With the gate towards me, the swing arm just glides along the inside of the carabiner spine. Nice and smooth. My chest connection fits nice on the carabiner above the top of the gate during ascent. I was overthinking it with the ring in the yoke
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Awesome man, glad it worked.
 
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