Any suggestions for a permanent base anchor?

[Winchman]

Now that I've got my permanent friction saver figured out I see the need for a permanent base anchor on a couple of the trees I plan to climb repeatedly. Right now my base anchor is a length of Stable Braid which takes several minutes to set up and adjust. I'd like something that I could just clip into with a carabiner, give it a good check pull, and start climbing. The trees are just garden variety pines and oaks.

 

[Quintanana]

Whats your permanent friction saver set up?

 

[Winchman]

Here it is.

It's just a strip of plastic cut from a paint bucket, two short pieces of PVC pipe with the inside edges tapered, some small rubber tubing pieces, a couple zip ties, and some #12 copper wire.

I don't recommend it for a moving rope with climbing loads. I use it for the anchor rope for the upper pulley of my 2:1 Ddrt climbing rig. It eliminates wear on the limb and rope, and it makes it easier to set things up for a climb.

I can use my telescopic pole to advance my TIP at the same time I'm installing the FS by putting a throw weight and line through the FS first. Pulling the line tight will form the FS to the limb, and the bookmark line or climbing rope will hold it in place if you're reasonably careful. I haven't had one come down yet.


I can put a throw line and weight through the open eyes to advance the TIP without the FS.

 

[southsoundtree]

Check the TB articles section, Mac Swan's article, and also Graeme McMahon's systems. Not sure where to find GMcM's.
No separate base anchored from the climbing line.

 

[Crimsonking]

Check the TB articles section, Mac Swan's article, and also Graeme McMahon's systems. Not sure where to find GMcM's.
No separate base anchored from the climbing line.

Where is Mac’s article? Here on the Buzz?

 

[Winchman]

Here: http://www.portal.treebuzz.com/simple-lowerable-base-anchors-719 Excellent article, but not exactly what I'm looking for.

Since I almost always climb with nobody around, I really need to have rescue instructions attached to my base anchor and enough extra climbing rope nearby.

 

[Jehinten]

Now that I've got my permanent friction saver figured out I see the need for a permanent base anchor on a couple of the trees I plan to climb repeatedly. Right now my base anchor is a length of Stable Braid which takes several minutes to set up and adjust. I'd like something that I could just clip into with a carabiner, give it a good check pull, and start climbing. The trees are just garden variety pines and oaks.

I wouldn't recommend a permanent wrap around the tree, even though its easy to inspect and adjust with the tree growth. Also not sure how I'd feel clipping into a through bolt for a climbing line. Although that is commonly used for ziplines.

I'd suggest a ultra sling for ease of setup, should only take about 10 seconds to setup a basal tie, other than the setting of the climb line in the tree.

 

[Tuebor]

Jeez, at this point, with all the contraptions you've conjured up, why not use one of those dog leash corkscrew stakes? Leave it screwed into the ground - clip in and go.

And you're going to leave rescue instructions attached to it while climbing alone? In other words, instructions on how to recover your body.

 

[Cereal_Killer]

Since I almost always climb with nobody around, I really need to have rescue instructions attached to my base anchor and enough extra climbing rope nearby.

Instructions arnt gonna do jack shit. If this is a serious concern of yours, take your gear and go down to the FD that would respond to your location, tell them your concerns and show them your setup. That's the only way you can realistically prepare them to rescue you. Dont be intimidated to show up with donuts and your gear at the firehouse, if anything you'll both learn from each other.

Firefighters don't show up to a job just to stand there and read the instruction manual while there's an emergency happening, they formulate a plan en route based on the info they have from the call, they adjust if necessary once on scene and get to work drawing on their training and knowledge.


Also since you mention "having extra rope near by", that ain't gonna do shit either brother, again if this is a serious concern you need to take that extra rope and set an access line. Lowerable base anchors are a fucking joke, what you never lanyard in?

 

[Winchman]

You make good points. The only instructions should probably be "Call 911". I was talking with a local fireman the other day, and he was telling me about doing rescue training on their 80' tower and getting certified for high angle rescues. It's reassuring that they'll at least have some clue about doing a proper rescue..

Yes, I'm usually tied in with my safety lanyard if I'm not actually moving up or down, and I'm always tied in before unfolding my razor saw.

 

[Cereal_Killer]

Yes, I'm usually tied in with my safety lanyard if I'm not actually moving up or down, and I'm always tied in before unfolding my razor saw.

There you have it. It doesn't matter if you and the rescuer are both intimately familiar with the system, doesn't matter how much you've practiced together, soon as that lanyard hits you're stuck.
An access rope is really your best bet. Maybe leave RADS gear already attached to the line, that way the first fire fighter on scene can start doing something more than just calling for the heavy rescue / rigging truck.