Passing rope joint through block

[evo]

I'm gearing up to do some long range yarding and know having a mile of rope would be best, but also cumbersome. I'm thinking of joining spliced eyes end to end, but making that joint small enough to pass a large block.

I'd much rather have two hanks of 150' amsteel than one 300'.

Anyone have any practical experience with passing a rope joint through a block reliably? and of course underload, not just a passline. I'm thinking an appropriate soft shackle?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Throw line

Even if you need to make a couple of round turns

 

[evo]

Throw line

Even if you need to make a couple of round turns

for 2K loads?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Ohhhh...i thought you were reeving the system.

Soft link sounds perfect

 

[CanadianStan]

Get a bigger block ? https://www.cmcpro.com/equipment/kootenay-ultra-pulley/

 

[CanadianStan]

Ohhhh...i thought you were reeving the system.

Soft link sounds perfect

I personally don't like textile on textile at high loads.. amsteel and heat don't get along too well in my experience. Id prefer a high strength maillon like this

1.5T WLL

Maillon Rapide Standard 12mm

Maillon Rapide Standard 12mm - Maillon Rapide

www.climbinganchors.com.au

 

[RopeShield]

Amstee so easy to field splice
So light n easy to manage 300 or more ft

 

[*useless info*]

Quite some job!
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ANY knot, splice etc. will present a stiffer /more leveraged against rope ; part trying to pass around the arc. Thicker rope alone, presents a further out leveraged point against rope that is forced to carry most tension, like rear of tree hinge. Then the stiffened area/length is another problem axis/dimension. They have the wide knot passing pulleys as shown for accommodating that problem axis /dimension of this, but need soft arc especially at high loads to accommodate the other 2 problem dimensions of this: rope stiffness even in sections and rope thickness/how far out most firm parts of rope are to leverage hardest. So flat webbing on arc has negligible height/deformity so doesn't leverage on hard arc against own self like 1" high rope would. Webbing could get torn up WORKING/cranking thru the arc tho, this is where rope shines.
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Splice to soft shackle sounds best, but longer splices are stronger but more leverage able stiffness run around arc. Soft Shackle does allow more of chain link of individual stiffness areas hinged instead of 1 longer leverage-able length, so yes better that way; but very limited play with this for me here. That is just my component view breakdown of what i think we are looking at.

 

[KevinS]

Get a machine to haul it if possible. It’s often faster

 

[flushcut]

Buy a long rope and pass the cost on to the custy.
End to end splice.
300 feet of amsteel can easily be made into 2 150' sections.

 

[Brocky]

Some types of soft shackles have twice the break strength of the line it’s made of, so a smaller diameter cord could be used. A shackle the size of your haul line might have too large of a stopper to pass through the pulley.

 

[evo]

Get a bigger block ? https://www.cmcpro.com/equipment/kootenay-ultra-pulley/


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My first thought too, but wanting something stronger.

 

[evo]

Get a machine to haul it if possible. It’s often faster

Not possible with this application

 

[evo]

Buy a long rope and pass the cost on to the custy.
End to end splice.
300 feet of amsteel can easily be made into 2 150' sections.

300’ of line will not work in this application. I need 300’ plus of travel in 120’-150’ sets.

 

[rico]

Perfect tool for this application...Knots and/or links will pass with ease... I use the shit out of mine when doing long heavy pulls with ropes....

https://ammcindustries.com/products/skookum-utili-sheave-full-sided-blocks-551100

 

[Crimsonking]

And it doubles as a kettlebell when it’s not working.

 

[cerviarborist]

Rico FTW!

 

[SeanRuel]

If you're using amsteel you should just splice it. Stick each end through the other and burry the tails

 

[evo]

So I’m thinking a large ISC block or my dmm impact block has a wide enough sheeve I can use two to three 150’ 3/8 amsteel lines spliced and joined with 5/16” soft shackles.

I don’t like the textile but hardware will not be block friendly. I’ll elaborate more

 

[evo]

Perfect tool for this application...Knots and/or links will pass with ease... I use the shit out of mine when doing long heavy pulls with ropes....

https://ammcindustries.com/products/skookum-utili-sheave-full-sided-blocks-551100

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That is what I’m thinking. We used some ole Garlats (spelling?). Big enough to pass a sheetbend in 9/16.. just hoping for a middle ground