Warning - Recoil Lanyard Can Open 3 way Carabiners

[NorCalBrock]

Had an odd set of events happen without injury or accident on Friday. I was pruning a eucalyptus and when I reached across my body to cut out some dead out my Recoil lanyard was able to open my 3 way gate at my bridge. Because of the coils, twists, and movements, it can quite easily open gates.

The coils can push up, twist, and press open the safety gate in a single motion.

Luckily my weight was in the saddle and my safety lanyard was secured on a nearby leader and attached to my Ds. I also checked all my attachments before repositioning.

Just a safety FYI...be safe and be aware.

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[evo]

Had an odd set of events happen without injury or accident on Friday. I was pruning a eucalyptus and when I reached across my body to cut out some dead out my Recoil lanyard was able to open my 3 way gate at my bridge. Because of the coils, twists, and movements, it can quite easily open gates.

The coils can push up, twist, and press open the safety gate in a single motion.

Luckily my weight was in the saddle and my safety lanyard was secured on a nearby leader and attached to my Ds. I also checked all my attachments before repositioning.

Just a safety FYI...be safe and be aware.

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I’ve had this happen a few times. Either climbing line attachment or rope lanyard attachments. I’ve even captured the lanyard in the carabiner.
It’s not a recoil thing as I’ve never used one, but a work positioning thing. Now SOP is not to cross my body with the saw lanyard but to go behind my back.

 

[NorCalBrock]

I’ve had this happen a few times. Either climbing line attachment or rope lanyard attachments. I’ve even captured the lanyard in the carabiner.
It’s not a recoil thing as I’ve never used one, but a work positioning thing. Now SOP is not to cross my body with the saw lanyard but to go behind my back.

Yeah...that's my new method. I will still use the Recoil, but it surprised me how easy it happened. I think the design of the Recoil makes it act like two finders on a gate though.

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[RyanCafferky]

For absolutely critical carabiners I personally like to use the Petzl Ball Lock biners. They are the most reliable in my experience. 2nd are the Rock O biners from Rock Exotica. Still a twist lock but they have a very strong spring action that keeps things closed.

Glad it was just a crap your pants moment and not something worse.

 

[GregManning]

Quote: "Warning - Recoil Lanyard Can Open 3 way Carabiners"

For Clarity, does this carabiner use 3-separate movements to open; or
4-separate movements to open. ?

e.g. DMM Durolock -
Link: http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=130&item=11154

 

[NorCalBrock]

Quote: "Warning - Recoil Lanyard Can Open 3 way Carabiners"

For Clarity, does this carabiner use 3-separate movements to open; or
4-separate movements to open. ?

e.g. DMM Durolock -
Link: http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=130&item=11154

3 movements...specifically a Notch carabiner and replicated with a DMM O

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[Reach]

Quote: "Warning - Recoil Lanyard Can Open 3 way Carabiners"

For Clarity, does this carabiner use 3-separate movements to open; or
4-separate movements to open. ?

e.g. DMM Durolock -
Link: http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=130&item=11154

The Durolock can be unlocked in only one movement, like a twistlock, if the conditions are right. I’ve done it, after someone showed me how easy it was.

 

[southsoundtree]

Now SOP is not to cross my body with the saw lanyard but to go behind my back.

Your shared idea of the chainsaw bridge in the rear sounds really good. Any tips/ problems?

 

[evo]

Your shared idea of the chainsaw bridge in the rear sounds really good. Any tips/ problems?

Nahh, it doesn't seem to ever be an issue with anything, other than normal handsaw, work positioning lanyard saw lanyard entanglement. I am quick to short haul the saw on either hip, so it gets tangled when on the matched side, but this is obviously to be expected and has nothing to do with the bridge its self. Personally I really like it, even though swinging a saw behind your back can be a little cumbersome at times in work positioning. I made mind out of a short scrap of ice tail hitch cord, I was hoping a burnt up hitch cord would work, but it was too long.
I use a weaver saw lanyard, no ring/snap (just a small eye for a biner) on the harness end, and big ring towards the saw end for short hauling storage.
The saw bridge is just locking brummels on both ends a a 3" bury if I recall. I can measure it if anyone wants, but I'm guessing it's about 14" eye to eye. The eyes are tucked up under the treemotion rear tool stuff on the conveyor. Then to non lockers above laced through the upper webbing. This actually helps keep these biners sticking out a little, and they serve two purposes, the saw bridge and racking gear.