Splicing double braid

[Scheffa]

Hi splicing gurus.
I’m having trouble trying to splice 3/4 poly double braid, I have managed to do a couple in the past but I’m having difficulty putting the core back in the cover.
When pushing my fid back through it gets jammed up real tight not long after passing the Y of the spice, getting jammed so tight I can’t push or pull it any further and can’t get the fid to poke out through the cover.

Where am I going wrong or is there a trick to it??
These are the instructions I’m following.

 

[Brocky]

If you’re splicing rope with a tighter braided cover than the marine rope in the video, a wire fid ,or splicing needle would be better. Another option is a wire mesh fid,or soft fid made from dyneema chafe cover.

 

[oldoakman]

X2 on the wire fid. Also taper the very end of the core and put just enough through the end of the wire fid to hold it in place when you pull it through. I also like to use a swedish fid to open the entry and exit points on the cover.

 

[dmonn]

When I've had the same issue (I'm new to splicing, so others may not agree) I've had some luck by not pushing the fid the entire distance all at once. I'll push until it starts to get tight, then push it out of the cover and pull the core out. Then I'll push it back in the same spot it came out, and go only a short distance and pull it back out again. I repeat this until I've got it where I want it.

Anybody else do this?

 

[ARLO]

Hi splicing gurus.
I’m having trouble trying to splice 3/4 poly double braid, I have managed to do a couple in the past but I’m having difficulty putting the core back in the cover.
When pushing my fid back through it gets jammed up real tight not long after passing the Y of the spice, getting jammed so tight I can’t push or pull it any further and can’t get the fid to poke out through the cover.

Where am I going wrong or is there a trick to it??
These are the instructions I’m following.


Check out this video that I just posted today. It shows how to avoid the issues you are having.

 

[SomethingWitty]

When I've had the same issue (I'm new to splicing, so others may not agree) I've had some luck by not pushing the fid the entire distance all at once. I'll push until it starts to get tight, then push it out of the cover and pull the core out. Then I'll push it back in the same spot it came out, and go only a short distance and pull it back out again. I repeat this until I've got it where I want it.

Anybody else do this?

Never, although the Samson directions specify doing this with their short wire fids. Sounds like if it looks good, it is good.

 

[Scheffa]

Thanks for posting that, would you climb on that??
New to the whole world of splicingnand knowing what splices are suitable for what ropes

 

[ARLO]

Thanks for posting that, would you climb on that??
New to the whole world of splicingnand knowing what splices are suitable for what ropes

Yes, this is the standard double-braid splice that is described in the Samson splicing manual. The only difference is that I use some tricks that make it easier than the methods used in the manual. For example, using a wire fid and reducing the volume on the core tail makes it much easier to pull the core thru the cover. These tricks become even more important when you start trying to splice ropes with very tight covers, such as Tachyon and Tendril.

 

[ARLO]

I just noticed that there is one place in my video where it says "core" when it should say "cover", so now I gotta fix that or people will be confused.

 

[oldoakman]

I enjoyed your video ARLO , and liked your marking with thread. Splicing blue moon makes me crazy cause i can't see my marks. Also your tapering the end of the core is what i was refering to as well. Also the swedish fid trick was picked up from a demonstration video that John Hartenburg did for his company, Knot and Rope supply. You have to watch closely to pivk it up as he does it so fast. Makes pulling the end of the fid with core or cover into the rope for final bury.