obtaining chems from plastic chemical bottles

[Joster19]

I am just getting into phc, starting with soil injection. I plan to start with paclo and amidicloporid, namely cambistat and Xytect from rainbow.
I'm not looking forward to trying to obtain A precise measurement like 328 ml from my almost full one gal- trying to think of how to obtain this. maybe a 500mL syringe? using two measuring cups and dumping residual back into the bottle? trying to walk the line between additional mixing container cleaning work and safety.
I have watched some YouTube's but they are all using metal containers that have a small hole up in one corner.
Just wonder if any of you have tips on doing this.

Thanks!

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[ATH]

Why not? I have a 500ml graduated cylinder. https://www.amazon.com/Graduated-Graduations-Polypropylene-Karter-Scientific/dp/B075JR7PHF

Now, I'm not going to guarantee that it was 328ml and not 325 or 330...but pretty darn close. If I get too much, I just pour it back into the jug. I put the gallon jug on the tailgate and tip it to the cylinder. I take the foil seal all the way off. Some people prefer to cut a larger hole in the front and a smaller hole in the back.

Having a quart measuring cup that you pour into, then fill the graduated cylinder would work too. Problem then is what to do with the rinsate. If you measure 328ml into the "Final" graduated cylinder and then rinse the quart measuring cup into the mix, you probably went over 328ml just as much as i did when I poured it straight into the cylinder.

A giant syringe could work too. I honestly did not know they made them that big...

 

[Lignotuber]

Why not? I have a 500ml graduated cylinder. https://www.amazon.com/Graduated-Graduations-Polypropylene-Karter-Scientific/dp/B075JR7PHF

Now, I'm not going to guarantee that it was 328ml and not 325 or 330...but pretty darn close. If I get too much, I just pour it back into the jug. I put the gallon jug on the tailgate and tip it to the cylinder. I take the foil seal all the way off. Some people prefer to cut a larger hole in the front and a smaller hole in the back.

Having a quart measuring cup that you pour into, then fill the graduated cylinder would work too. Problem then is what to do with the rinsate. If you measure 328ml into the "Final" graduated cylinder and then rinse the quart measuring cup into the mix, you probably went over 328ml just as much as i did when I poured it straight into the cylinder.

A giant syringe could work too. I honestly did not know they made them that big...

Agree with ATH. I might leave some water out before triple rinsing the measuring cup and adding that into the mixture. I would note that for soil drench/injections, the Xytect 2f rate is pretty high. I prefer the Xytect 75 in water soluble packets (wsp). Just throw them in per label rate and mix. Less exposure, quicker, easier clean up etc.

 

[ATH]

I prefer the 2F formulation because I get the exact amount per tree. 0.2 oz per inch (6ml) for trees under 15" and 0.4 oz (12 ml) per inch of DBH for trees over 15".

With the packets I find I'm frequently in between not enough (risking ineffective treatment) or too much (which is technically against the law...). Same thing using Transtect vs. Safari for dinotefuron. I like the idea of the packets being cleaner and less exposure. For multiple trees, the rounding errors work themselves out better... To each their own. Nothing wrong with the packets, just not my preference.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Look up 'industrial syringes'

Since I don't do production work anymore there's no reason to have much mixed gas on hand. Having a liter at a time for my string trimmer is sufficient. I've got the per liter ratios on the ammo box of supplies.

A friend who is a nurse got me a bag of used syringes. It took a little work to get them out of the waste stream at the hospital and follow the rules.

Without the 'inside connection' it would have been easier buying them from an industrial supplier.

 

[Lignotuber]

I prefer the 2F formulation because I get the exact amount per tree. 0.2 oz per inch (6ml) for trees under 15" and 0.4 oz (12 ml) per inch of DBH for trees over 15".

With the packets I find I'm frequently in between not enough (risking ineffective treatment) or too much (which is technically against the law...). Same thing using Transtect vs. Safari for dinotefuron. I like the idea of the packets being cleaner and less exposure. For multiple trees, the rounding errors work themselves out better... To each their own. Nothing wrong with the packets, just not my preference.

Yeah, I do municipal work so usually large mixes. I keep a little safari and 2f or dominion 2L or around for small jobs or some canopy sprays. Although probably 90% of treatments are trunk injections anyways.