- Location
- AZ
New Tribe?
- Thread starter Rocks_and_Trees
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- Location
- Canada
ANn saddle I have tried with a central attachment like the one pictured, made it hard to breath. That design seems to be gaining popularity!
countryboypa31
New member
- Location
- PA
I've been considering trying that saddle as well! Let me know what you find.
I have had that saddle for 2 years now and I have been climbing only in that saddle for the past year. I love it. It is the most comfortable saddle that I have ever tried. I used to climb with the Glide 2 and it was a bit difficult making the transition from a rope bridge to this, but I am not sure that I will ever go back. Like anything new, once you get your climbing style to change, it works fine. For the price, you really cant go wrong. I would highly recommend this saddle if you think you can adjust to the center tie in.
countryboypa31
New member
- Location
- PA
I'm in the glide 2 lite. Its a great saddle but i've been doing more cabling and if you have to sit for any period of time its not that comfortable. I love the light weight but i'm looking for more comfort. I thought this might be the solution. I know that it doesn't have the rope bridge that i've become accustom to, but i also have the Master deluxe and i don't mind that with the single center attachment point. That and the price makes it so appealing!
moss
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
Bear in mind that I'm a rec climber, I spend a lot of time sitting in a harness because I'm often running group climbs for new climbers, it has to be very comfortable for long hang times. I started climbing on NT harnesses, switched over to a Butterfly II for a year and have been climbing on an NT Tengu for more than a year. I love it. It's well made in the U.S.A., excellent for DdRT or SRT. Folks at New Tribe are great about doing custom work to get the saddle just the way you want it.
-moss
-moss
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Tengu has been a popular harness for a long time.
The only item in the minus column is that it isn't a sliding dee bridge. Some people find that it pulls to the side when they climb off center. This can be uncomfortable but some people have changed their climbing styles or expectations to compromise for the difference.
The only item in the minus column is that it isn't a sliding dee bridge. Some people find that it pulls to the side when they climb off center. This can be uncomfortable but some people have changed their climbing styles or expectations to compromise for the difference.
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I've been thinking of trying this harness out. Seems lightweight and I like the soft D's. Anyone have this harness? I'm used to having a bridge and I don't really like the central attachment.
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Any saddles have both a bridge and central ventral or reconfigure as either?
I've been thinking of trying this harness out. Seems lightweight and I like the soft D's. Anyone have this harness? I'm used to having a bridge and I don't really like the central attachment.
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Any saddles have both a bridge and central ventral or reconfigure as either?
Waldo
Participating member
- Location
- Portland, OR
yes, the sequoia SRT model does.
- Location
- Central Ohio
Three of my climbers climb in this saddle. The one has been climbing for many years and loves the fact it is very very light weight. In my mind it seems almost too lihgt weight that it would not last, but he climbs everyday in it. They buy their own saddles and like the fact it is cheap compared to others. The downside depends on how many tools, carabiners you carry on this saddle. There are not many attachmnet points on the older style New Tribe.
- Location
- AZ
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switched over to a Butterfly II for a year and have been climbing on an NT Tengu for more than a year. I love it. It's well made in the U.S.A., excellent for DdRT or SRT.
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I've been climbing on a Butterfly II now for over three years and have little complaints. The only thing holding me back from getting the Tengu is attaching to the steel thing in the center. Do you just clip your carabiner directly to it?
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Folks at New Tribe are great about doing custom work to get the saddle just the way you want it.
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That's good to know. I think I would like a few more gear loops. Did you have any mods to your harness? Thanks moss, I was hoping for your input even though your just a rec. cliber
switched over to a Butterfly II for a year and have been climbing on an NT Tengu for more than a year. I love it. It's well made in the U.S.A., excellent for DdRT or SRT.
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I've been climbing on a Butterfly II now for over three years and have little complaints. The only thing holding me back from getting the Tengu is attaching to the steel thing in the center. Do you just clip your carabiner directly to it?
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Folks at New Tribe are great about doing custom work to get the saddle just the way you want it.
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That's good to know. I think I would like a few more gear loops. Did you have any mods to your harness? Thanks moss, I was hoping for your input even though your just a rec. cliber
moss
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
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That's good to know. I think I would like a few more gear loops. Did you have any mods to your harness? Thanks moss, I was hoping for your input even though your just a rec. cliber
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Just a good for nuthin' rec climber
I'd probably hate trees if I had to work in them 5 days a week! Not likely though, I like climbing too much. I'd probably blow out my knees, shoulders, wrists, back, hips (anything else?) after a couple months of serious work climbing.
Yep, you clip into the central delta screwlink. My harness setup is modified to make it more friendly for my climbing style. I use a pear screwlink instead of the delta and I clip the biner holding my hitch into the leg strap D below the screwlink.
My DdRT system on a Tengu
At minute 5:40 you can see my Tree Frog SRT system.
I've added small non-locking biners on to the harness belt to hold more stuff like slings etc., it has slots on each side to add ditty bags etc. It's definitely a versatile harness, not perfect but no harness is.
-moss
That's good to know. I think I would like a few more gear loops. Did you have any mods to your harness? Thanks moss, I was hoping for your input even though your just a rec. cliber
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Just a good for nuthin' rec climber
I'd probably hate trees if I had to work in them 5 days a week! Not likely though, I like climbing too much. I'd probably blow out my knees, shoulders, wrists, back, hips (anything else?) after a couple months of serious work climbing.Yep, you clip into the central delta screwlink. My harness setup is modified to make it more friendly for my climbing style. I use a pear screwlink instead of the delta and I clip the biner holding my hitch into the leg strap D below the screwlink.
My DdRT system on a Tengu
At minute 5:40 you can see my Tree Frog SRT system.
I've added small non-locking biners on to the harness belt to hold more stuff like slings etc., it has slots on each side to add ditty bags etc. It's definitely a versatile harness, not perfect but no harness is.
-moss
- Location
- AZ
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That's good to know. I think I would like a few more gear loops. Did you have any mods to your harness? Thanks moss, I was hoping for your input even though your just a rec. cliber
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Just a good for nuthin' rec climber I'd probably hate trees if I had to work in them 5 days a week! Not likely though, I like climbing too much. I'd probably blow out my knees, shoulders, wrists, back, hips (anything else?) after a couple months of serious work climbing.
Yep, you clip into the central delta screwlink. My harness setup is modified to make it more friendly for my climbing style. I use a pear screwlink instead of the delta and I clip the biner holding my hitch into the leg strap D below the screwlink.
My DdRT system on a Tengu
At minute 5:40 you can see my Tree Frog SRT system.
I've added small non-locking biners on to the harness belt to hold more stuff like slings etc., it has slots on each side to add ditty bags etc. It's definitely a versatile harness, not perfect but no harness is.
-moss
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Thanks moss! (and everyone else who replied). I see how the New Tribe harnesses have the "slot" on the belt where biners could fit through, very nice.
I don't like the biner to screw link connection though. I was always taught (as a rock climber) that biner to biner connections are dangerous, as well as sling on sling. I know tree climbing does'nt exactly have the same possibilities of a dynamic load situation, but still......
What do you think about this?
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That's good to know. I think I would like a few more gear loops. Did you have any mods to your harness? Thanks moss, I was hoping for your input even though your just a rec. cliber
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Just a good for nuthin' rec climber
I'd probably hate trees if I had to work in them 5 days a week! Not likely though, I like climbing too much. I'd probably blow out my knees, shoulders, wrists, back, hips (anything else?) after a couple months of serious work climbing.Yep, you clip into the central delta screwlink. My harness setup is modified to make it more friendly for my climbing style. I use a pear screwlink instead of the delta and I clip the biner holding my hitch into the leg strap D below the screwlink.
My DdRT system on a Tengu
At minute 5:40 you can see my Tree Frog SRT system.
I've added small non-locking biners on to the harness belt to hold more stuff like slings etc., it has slots on each side to add ditty bags etc. It's definitely a versatile harness, not perfect but no harness is.
-moss
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Thanks moss! (and everyone else who replied). I see how the New Tribe harnesses have the "slot" on the belt where biners could fit through, very nice.
I don't like the biner to screw link connection though. I was always taught (as a rock climber) that biner to biner connections are dangerous, as well as sling on sling. I know tree climbing does'nt exactly have the same possibilities of a dynamic load situation, but still......
What do you think about this?
moss
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
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I don't like the biner to screw link connection though. I was always taught (as a rock climber) that biner to biner connections are dangerous, as well as sling on sling. I know tree climbing does'nt exactly have the same possibilities of a dynamic load situation, but still......
What do you think about this?
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Not to worry, a screwlink is not a biner. The stock delta screwlink on the NT harness is rated to 10,000 lbs loaded in any direction. The locking nut is threaded on each end, as bombproof as it gets. The pear screwlink is also very strong. Compare that to a typical floating bridge anchor attachment on any arb harness, which would you rather fall on? The answer is they're both safe for work positioning climbing, what they're intended for. Your body will break well before the screwlink or bridge would. I think the "no biner to biner" connection rule has more to do with the possibilities of cross loading the gates in a fall arrest situation. On a rated screwlink (not the Home Depot variety) there is no equivalent gate weakness.
-moss
I don't like the biner to screw link connection though. I was always taught (as a rock climber) that biner to biner connections are dangerous, as well as sling on sling. I know tree climbing does'nt exactly have the same possibilities of a dynamic load situation, but still......
What do you think about this?
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Not to worry, a screwlink is not a biner. The stock delta screwlink on the NT harness is rated to 10,000 lbs loaded in any direction. The locking nut is threaded on each end, as bombproof as it gets. The pear screwlink is also very strong. Compare that to a typical floating bridge anchor attachment on any arb harness, which would you rather fall on? The answer is they're both safe for work positioning climbing, what they're intended for. Your body will break well before the screwlink or bridge would. I think the "no biner to biner" connection rule has more to do with the possibilities of cross loading the gates in a fall arrest situation. On a rated screwlink (not the Home Depot variety) there is no equivalent gate weakness.
-moss
- Location
- Lexington, KY
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Hey, davej this is the harness that Waldo spoke of. Sequoia SRT
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Yeah I see it, thanks. I'm just puzzling over the balance points of these various saddles. Some of them seem to pull you into more of a sitting position than others.
Hey, davej this is the harness that Waldo spoke of. Sequoia SRT
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Yeah I see it, thanks. I'm just puzzling over the balance points of these various saddles. Some of them seem to pull you into more of a sitting position than others.
- Location
- AZ
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I don't like the biner to screw link connection though. I was always taught (as a rock climber) that biner to biner connections are dangerous, as well as sling on sling. I know tree climbing does'nt exactly have the same possibilities of a dynamic load situation, but still......
What do you think about this?
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Not to worry, a screwlink is not a biner. The stock delta screwlink on the NT harness is rated to 10,000 lbs loaded in any direction. The locking nut is threaded on each end, as bombproof as it gets. The pear screwlink is also very strong. Compare that to a typical floating bridge anchor attachment on any arb harness, which would you rather fall on? The answer is they're both safe for work positioning climbing, what they're intended for. Your body will break well before the screwlink or bridge would. I think the "no biner to biner" connection rule has more to do with the possibilities of cross loading the gates in a fall arrest situation. On a rated screwlink (not the Home Depot variety) there is no equivalent gate weakness.
-moss
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Thanks again moss. What are the advantages of the pear screwlink?
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I don't like the biner to screw link connection though. I was always taught (as a rock climber) that biner to biner connections are dangerous, as well as sling on sling. I know tree climbing does'nt exactly have the same possibilities of a dynamic load situation, but still......
What do you think about this?
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Not to worry, a screwlink is not a biner. The stock delta screwlink on the NT harness is rated to 10,000 lbs loaded in any direction. The locking nut is threaded on each end, as bombproof as it gets. The pear screwlink is also very strong. Compare that to a typical floating bridge anchor attachment on any arb harness, which would you rather fall on? The answer is they're both safe for work positioning climbing, what they're intended for. Your body will break well before the screwlink or bridge would. I think the "no biner to biner" connection rule has more to do with the possibilities of cross loading the gates in a fall arrest situation. On a rated screwlink (not the Home Depot variety) there is no equivalent gate weakness.
-moss
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Thanks again moss. What are the advantages of the pear screwlink?
