line bags

[hl_tree]

I was having a conversation with somebody a few weeks ago about different things and I mentioned to him about how great having a bag for my climbing line is. He said that they are unecessary as he can coil a rope up pretty fast. I was just wondering if there have ever been any trials to see roughly what percentage faster it is per foot or 100 feet or what have you to put line into a bag rather than coil it up?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Sounds like a good project for you to take on.

Besides being quicker, I feel that the ropes get less hockles in them from bagging.

Another advantage is that anyone can stuffa a rope. There is a skill to coiling a rope so that it uncoils nicely.

Tom

 

[tech_arborist]

It's faster to put your line in a bag, and it takes more time to learn how to coil properly than it does to learn how to stuff a bag. plus you can throw a rope bag out of a tree and it will go right to the ground, try that with a coil and it will hang up everywhere. and also it protects your lifeline from sharp saws and such in the bins.

 

[treeclimber165]

Rope bags are one of those things you do not think you need until you've used one for a while. I only started using rope bags last year and now I wouldn't consider coiling up my lifelines. I now have 4 rope bags and need a couple more for hand lines. Most guys who comment on them don't think they are very useful but I know better.

The $18 CMI bags from Sherrill are a much better deal than the $35 Sherrill (Buckingham) bags and are easier to stuff.

 

[okietreedude1]

A couple of yrs ago, a co-worker bought a cmi bag. We had coiled for yrs. I didnt think much of it until while doing a line clearance job, his gear was on the back of the bucket truck when a hydraulic hose inside the lower boom broke sending 10-15 gals. of oil all over the bed. His gear was right in the middle of it all. That bag saved his rope. Only the 6" or so sticking out the top got wet. THAT convinced me. $17 for a bag vs. $85+ for a rope? No comparison.

As for speed, I've since been using a bag and will willing race anyone in stuffing vs. coiling. Just dont put any $ down, it'd be like taking candy from my kids. I'd just about be willing to bet too that 2 ropes could be stuffed in two bags by one man in the time it takes to coil a 120' rope.

Finally, I sell the cmi bags for $17 and agree that more expensive isnt always better.

David
www.okarboristsupply.com

 

[jwiener]

Sold a customer his first throw line and tried to sell him a bag and said he does need that fancy stuff.
He was back two days later with 150 foot knot and said this line is junk because it gets all knotted up. Helped him straighten the line and sold him a bag and haven't heard any more complaints.
Speaking of line bags,
Tom do you still use your old suit case?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

My rigging ropes go in suitcases. I have a shelf in the cube van that is angled back to the wall to keep them racked and ready. Unfortunately, I only have one pink suitcase

If you think its fast to flake into a bag, I'll whip you with my lightning fast suitcase flaking Besides, they're free!

Tom

 

[Yoav]

".Unfortunately, I only have one pink suitcase
If you think its fast to flake into a bag, I'll whip you with my lightning fast suitcase flaking Besides, they're free!"


---this brings me to a story about my sister. She was once staying in a hotel in minneapolis and went out to see a theatre production. She returned to find her things scattered around the room, and her favorite pink suitcase gone. This was a family relic, I'll have you know. Our grandmother used that suitcase. We rather sadly purchased her another suitcase, and I havent thought of it since. But now, I remember odd reports around Minneapolis about a man swinging from building to building.
No Tom, the suitcases are not free.

(Cheap laundry bags, rice sacks, potato sacks, and such all work as well.)

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Dang! And I thought that I had pulled off the perfect crime. As your sister found out, all I wanted was that nice suitcase. I wasn't interested in the jewelry or cash, even if it was that Saran Wrap stuff you claim is currency.

Tom