Friction Saver ring heat?
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robinia
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Are the rings steel or aluminum?
I don't think I'd worry as much about aluminum, as opposed to steel. But that's just me. I don't claim to know much.
I don't think I'd worry as much about aluminum, as opposed to steel. But that's just me. I don't claim to know much.
They are aluminum,I never even considered it till i came across.
http://www.treeclimbercoalition.org/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1602
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http://www.treeclimbercoalition.org/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1602
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tuttle
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I think that article is missing a few points, there are loads of variables that can effect the rings.
For starters, if you tried to abseil off a 50ft spike with a normal fig8 and then you feel the heat based on your descent speed, I have glazed ropes doing this, so as long as your not head bombing off your main rope and doing a few double summies at the base before landing..... You should be ok
For starters, if you tried to abseil off a 50ft spike with a normal fig8 and then you feel the heat based on your descent speed, I have glazed ropes doing this, so as long as your not head bombing off your main rope and doing a few double summies at the base before landing..... You should be ok
I agree,i am of a nimble build,I don't think I can heat em up if i tryed. But you know it's best to assume nothing,so i signed up to the forum to ask lol.
Long time reader first post, that FS i made with an overlapping straight bury,and i tucked the cover back in over the base of the eye,lock stitched and whipped.
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Long time reader first post, that FS i made with an overlapping straight bury,and i tucked the cover back in over the base of the eye,lock stitched and whipped.
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tuttle
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Richard Mumford-yoyoman
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Your hitch or descender will tell you how much heat is being generated. If you melt through your hitch cord it's probably not good for your FS either. ;-)
Hahaha ,yeah those are the things that got me to thinking about this. I dont abuse any of my tools,but a descent is what it is.
so far we have all merely expressed our opinions from our experience but i would obviously not be a happy camper if my FS failed making a greater descent,if its not an issue,sik! If it's something that should be considered a possibility than obviously proper steps should be taken(like not use low melting point materials).
Tuttle made a good point about dyneema heat absorption rates which definitely play a role with a few other factors,but I don't want a piece of gear that could potentially fail especially if i had to descend in an emergency scenario....
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so far we have all merely expressed our opinions from our experience but i would obviously not be a happy camper if my FS failed making a greater descent,if its not an issue,sik! If it's something that should be considered a possibility than obviously proper steps should be taken(like not use low melting point materials).
Tuttle made a good point about dyneema heat absorption rates which definitely play a role with a few other factors,but I don't want a piece of gear that could potentially fail especially if i had to descend in an emergency scenario....
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JTree
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Weeeeeeeell, second post as this post's twin is in climber's talk is in > climber's talk, right 
Either way, welcome to the buzz!
Either way, welcome to the buzz!
JTree
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To answer your question, though.......I wouldn't worry 'bout a thing, and here's why:
Arb pro has a spectra core, epicord has a dyneema core with a little something else for additional flavor. Samson ice tail is completely dynema.......
And all these are sold as prussik cord and can be used as primary tie in material. Used in this way, it's going to see way more heat than a f/s.
Correction: it has been pointed out to me that ice tail is not dyneema........coulda sworn it was dyneema, but I stand corrected.
Arb pro has a spectra core, epicord has a dyneema core with a little something else for additional flavor. Samson ice tail is completely dynema.......
And all these are sold as prussik cord and can be used as primary tie in material. Used in this way, it's going to see way more heat than a f/s.
Correction: it has been pointed out to me that ice tail is not dyneema........coulda sworn it was dyneema, but I stand corrected.
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JTree
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Am I missing anything, guys?
JTree
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BTW, really nice looking splices. Looking forward to seeing more in the "show off your splices" thread.
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tuttle
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Ice tail is technora, aramids have lots of different names. Me I love vectran, it's a proper lightweight thinnest rope you can do anything with, easy to splice.
TimBr
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Vectran is the name of a synthetic fiber that is just one component of a multi-fiber rope assembly, isn't that correct? The Vectran would lie at the center of such a rope, correct?
Do you know the name or names of any climbing ropes that use Vectran? It sounds like really strong, really tough fiber.
Thanks in advance for any answers you choose to provide.
Tim
P.S. Here is a link to information about Vectran produced by the Kuraray Corporation of Japan, who is I believe the sole owner of the right to produce Vectran.
http://vectranfiber.com/
tuttle
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The one thing I make alot of splices with is 8mm marlow viper, the cover has vectran and polyester, the sailing boys chose the core and cover for whatever purpose they desire, we could too, if we had gold in our pockets.....
