EAB in NH...... the party's over....

Re: EAB in NH...... the party\'s over....

If it weren't for bad luck...I'd have no luck at all.

Sorry to hear of your beautiful state's misfortune Mark.

jomoco
 
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How'd it make that jump so fast? Firewood?

Unfortunate all around, we work in Dalton where they found it in MA, so only a matter of time before we're dealing with it here ourselves.

:-(
 
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Here in vermont we have been lucky thus far but I have a feeling our fortune will change very soon... Does anyone now of a map that shows infestations?
 
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How'd it make that jump so fast? Firewood?

Unfortunate all around, we work in Dalton where they found it in MA, so only a matter of time before we're dealing with it here ourselves.

:-(

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Most likely firewood. It's sick because people are taking down ash in infected ares and moving EAB around the northeast way faster than it could travel on its own. Too sad.
-AJ
 
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How'd it make that jump so fast? Firewood?

Unfortunate all around, we work in Dalton where they found it in MA, so only a matter of time before we're dealing with it here ourselves.

:-(

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Most likely firewood. It's sick because people are taking down ash in infected ares and moving EAB around the northeast way faster than it could travel on its own. Too sad.
-AJ

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At this point, they say trucks and regular vehicles are transporting EAB as well, unwittingly of course. But in areas of heavy infestations, adults can hitch a ride on anything.

SZ
 
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People (arborists too) need to take the motto "Dont' Move Firewood" literally.
If you cut down an EAB infested tree, any wood not processed on site should remain on the property where it died.
 
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There are many counties and municipalities that have yet to see EAB and have had considerable amount of time to prepare.

Are there any area that are going to try to attempt eradication?

In Thunder Bay, we're fairly isolated. We have many ash street trees but ash in the surrounding forest is not abundant and natural movement to here would be slow. We've mounted a big public awareness campaign and will hopefully try to eradicate EAB if it shows up here. Obviously this would be a challenging task but we are going to try it.

Recently the ALB infestation in Toronto was declared eradicated. Different pest, i know, but it is possible.

v
 
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Anything is possible.

What about a town in the middle of the prairies? Winnipeg has had great success controlling DED in its urban forest largely due to effort and investment but also due to the lack of elm in the surrounding areas.

v
 
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Unless you are able to put giant nets over the canopy of your large ashes or willing to pay for chemical treatments for every ash...your fate is doomed. Anything is possible is just plain naive. If you and your client value their individual ash trees...get on the ball and find out how and when and with what...to treat them. The only hope for their survival.

DED and EAB not comparable.
 
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Unless you are able to put giant nets over the canopy of your large ashes or willing to pay for chemical treatments for every ash...your fate is doomed. Anything is possible is just plain naive. If you and your client value their individual ash trees...get on the ball and find out how and when and with what...to treat them. The only hope for their survival.

DED and EAB not comparable.

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Agreed.
 
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Hi Chris.

When I first found out about EAB, before anyone else knew about it and they had diagnosed it as Ash Yellows, I was at a diagnostic clinic with the Indiana ISA and Cliff Sadoff revealed the shocking prognosis I believe in 2002. I went home and expected to talk about it with other arbs on forums but no one up north was saying anything.

They are so subtle and unobtrusive they almost say excuse me while coming in like a fog on a sunny day, no noise, chips falling, bugs flying and set up encampment in the upper canopy out of sight out of mind. There are not even wounds early on when the tree still has energy for closure.

Even well into heavy infestation there is little obtrusion other than bodies being shuttled out periodically from the yards of mystified (and a little poorer} homeowners.

I think Dan Herms told me that in the first maybe 8 years half of all the ash die...then in the next 2 (I think) the other half die (exponential reproduction). During highest infestation I now, from witnessing, truly believe, a person could lose say 20 mature trees in their yard and never actually see (or maybe realize they see) an adult responsible for all the devastation.
 
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We've found the EAB in a few of our trees in the municipality I work for on the island of montreal. The Canadian food inspection agency has quarantined the island last year for the movement of any green material. Despite this, the beetle was discovered in several surrounding areas this year, meaning it's still spreading. And not to be pessimistic, but you guys down in Vermont aren't that far from us in Quebec, so I would suspect its only a matter of time before it reaches you. I sure hope it doesn't but realistically I think it's probable it will.
 
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