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eastsidetimber

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Want to preface this with the fact that I've never owned or operated a bucket truck but a couple guys on my crew have used one. It's just that more than 50% of jobs recently were accessible with a bucket truck and would have sped up the work immensely. The truck needs to be under CDL for the crew to drive and that obviously narrows the search down quite a bit. The truck would also double as our gear/service truck with air compressor and generator welder mounted. I'm interested in 2 trucks near to me:

https://www.bauertree.com/2002altecaa600/

this truck has what I believe is a utility boom on it and does not go over center. I REALLY LIKE THE PRICE TAG and I prefer Internationals as I have a couple already. 55 foot work height and rear mount. How much work can I get done with this truck?

https://www.bauertree.com/2007-ford-f650/

65 foot work hight and rear mount and over center I believe, all pluses. More than double the price of the international, dont like that so much. And don't really want a Ford

Thoughts?? Thanks everyone!

Oh and if someone has an under CDL rear mount for sale, let me know. Closer to Washington the better
 
eastsidetimber said:
No just got my CDL 6 months ago. Thats not a true statement in Washington. 26k gvw and under is the only requirement
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I think we are both mistaken here, at least the 26001+ as the only requirement.

I didn't see the air brakes on the WA DOL site http://www.dmv.org/wa-washington/cdl-faqs.php.

If you have a combined 26001+, and trailer rated for 10001+, it's class A required.


I'm shocked if they let anyone drive with air brakes. Didn't easily find that in print.
 
tc262 said:
False! Over 26K means CDL. If you are in a cdl truck with air brakes you must have an air brake endorsement. If under 26K GVWR as marked on the truck no cdl is needed regardless of which kind of brakes it has.
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What I meant to say earlier is if the truck is 26k and under no cdl is needed regardless of what brakes it has. In Washington, no air brake endorsement is needed either.
 
eastsidetimber said:
Want to preface this with the fact that I've never owned or operated a bucket truck but a couple guys on my crew have used one. It's just that more than 50% of jobs recently were accessible with a bucket truck and would have sped up the work immensely. The truck needs to be under CDL for the crew to drive and that obviously narrows the search down quite a bit. The truck would also double as our gear/service truck with air compressor and generator welder mounted. I'm interested in 2 trucks near to me:

https://www.bauertree.com/2002altecaa600/

this truck has what I believe is a utility boom on it and does not go over center. I REALLY LIKE THE PRICE TAG and I prefer Internationals as I have a couple already. 55 foot work height and rear mount. How much work can I get done with this truck?

https://www.bauertree.com/2007-ford-f650/

65 foot work hight and rear mount and over center I believe, all pluses. More than double the price of the international, dont like that so much. And don't really want a Ford

Thoughts?? Thanks everyone!

Oh and if someone has an under CDL rear mount for sale, let me know. Closer to Washington the better
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Buy the second truck. I know its not mounted right on the rear....but it is a taller truck and you will find that very useful. The price is pennies more compared to what you can do with a bucket verses climbing. Plus that are willing to paint it...so it will look very professional.
 
ROYCE said:
Buy the second truck. I know its not mounted right on the rear....but it is a taller truck and you will find that very useful. The price is pennies more compared to what you can do with a bucket verses climbing. Plus that are willing to paint it...so it will look very professional.
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Yeah as I figured. Was wishful thinking, I was hoping someone would say "go for the 55 foot utility boom, you'll do a ton of work with it!"
 
So there is all this talk about cdl and under cdl, in the state of Illinois and I imagine others a thing called a class c non cdl. Which is required to drive 16k to 26k pounds. It is not required for recreational vehicles or if you go rent a uhaul, but if you drive a truck in a biz you are required to have this licence.....

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tc262 said:
False! Over 26K means CDL. If you are in a cdl truck with air brakes you must have an air brake endorsement. If under 26K GVWR as marked on the truck no cdl is needed regardless of which kind of brakes it has.
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Really? Wow. I am wrong.

I have a Class A with Air Brakes, so I've never gone through the steps in between to upgrade. Never had air brake or trailer restrictions, only tanker/ hazmat type restriction, as I recall.

There are all the inspections with air brakes on Commercial Trucks for pre-trip inspection. Does a regular joe get to drive air brakes without endorsement if its 26k and under?


From WA Dept of Licensing.
Air brakes restriction Drivers of CDL vehicles with air brakes must pass the required tests for air brakes. Drivers who do not pass these tests are restricted on the CDL to non-air brake vehicles.


Is there a regular license with air brake endorsement?
 
It does vary sometimes from state to state so be carefull but the majority are the same. Yes regular Joe can drive an air brake vehicle if its under 26K. If its a vehicle that requires a cdl then you must have the airbrake endorsement. I've done lots of reading and research on the subject because I have a M2 Freightliner that is 25,999 GVWR with air brakes, no cdl is needed if my traler is 10K or less. I know the majority of WI state laws fairly well. The Factory door tag reads 10K front 20K rear axle rating and 25,999 gross. Its basically a 33k truck de-rated from the factory to be under cdl. The important part is that the factory tag reads under 26. Lots of people falsely believe they can register a truck at 26 and "de-rate" them but this is not true, the door tag must read 26 or less.
 
tc262 said:
It does vary sometimes from state to state so be carefull but the majority are the same. Yes regular Joe can drive an air brake vehicle if its under 26K. If its a vehicle that requires a cdl then you must have the airbrake endorsement. I've done lots of reading and research on the subject because I have a M2 Freightliner that is 25,999 GVWR with air brakes, no cdl is needed if my traler is 10K or less. I know the majority of WI state laws fairly well. The Factory door tag reads 10K front 20K rear axle rating and 25,999 gross. Its basically a 33k truck de-rated from the factory to be under cdl. The important part is that the factory tag reads under 26. Lots of people falsely believe they can register a truck at 26 and "de-rate" them but this is not true, the door tag must read 26 or less.
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Exactly what tc262 said
 
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