Big DED killed elm coming up

Roger_Barnett

Roger_Barnett

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We got the job.... but service to three houses needs to be dropped or rerouted. Ness Crane will supply their 55 ton truck mount unit. But City Light informed me that they would need $4000 to drop the lines, if they showed up at 7 am, and restrung them sometime after 4 pm. So I asked them what the charge, if any, would be if they do the drops at the normal time, but two days in a row. This would allow us to rig out a fair bit of the brush on day one, and then crane the tough limbs and wood on day two. She will let me know. I hope they will do that for the normal charge, which is zero.... Urban Hardwoods has committed to purchase the wood for $1500, and pay for it being picked up and delivered to their lot by Marilyn's Recycle.

A facebook commenter suggested supplying a generator for one neighbor who would be affected, and leaving their power down overnight... My client, whose property is on the water, and worth $4-8m, said that he has a generator.... and his phone and cable lines will remain up, as they're not in the way. And I can R&R the phone/cable lines myself to the other two houses.

The tree is 14'5" in circumference, with a couple really long and heavy laterals, plus some brittle dead wood in the top, and with that fancy landscape underneath, a crane is really needed to get the hard brush down, and, of course for the wood, as it is being bought by www.urbanhardwoods.com .

If we had to rig that tree down, I think it would take 3-4 days, and cost $12-16k, plus wood removal costs. Whaddya say, Reg?

With crane assist, I'm thinking $5000 labor...expecting it to take two short days. But I think I'm going to tell the client that $6000 for labor might be needed. I haven't provided a written estimate yet, but told him $5000, maybe less. Other fees will be the road closure, permit and signage--which, for a truck mount boom truck, should be $500 or less. It's a corner, and no homes will be cut off from accessing their driveways. And Urban Hardwoods said they would take some of the smaller wood, under 12"...but since I don't like chipping much material over 6", as it fills ups the truck too quickly, I'll probably allow another $500-650 for a trash truck to take the smaller wood. Dead elm is supposed to be chipped, burned or buried and not used for firewood, due to the elm beetle DED problem.
 
Well, Rog that sounds like a unique and challenging job for you. Good luck with it and please post some more pics. The slide show is awesome. Real nice landscape you got there.
 
Roger I'm just a rec climber so forgive my ignorance but....I am only seeing 1500 for the wood. Would it not be more profitable if feasible, and maybe no power lines if you just chunked it down and deposed of the wood in pieces. I am thinking smaller or no crane, and maybe no permits and power lines, certainly more of your time. Just an out of the box thought from someone who admittedly doesn't know better.
 
The way that I am reading it the power service normally will do the service drop disconnects for free, unless outside normal business hours for the linemen. Rog was wanting a bigger window to get the crane in and out for a day (?). I do not know what ness crane charges for their 55ton, but Urban Hardwoods buying the log sounds like it would come close to paying for the crane fees. Sure there may be more out side costs, but the job would be done a day or two quicker. After all of the expenses it may be the same bill, but the mussels will be less sore.
 
monkeylove, note I stated:

If we had to rig that tree down, I think it would take 3-4 days, and cost $12-16k, plus wood removal costs.

Correct, evo. And, I'm confident we can get the pwr dropped for free, so the job should not cost the client over $8500. Ness is at $250 hour for that crane.... might be over an hour each way before we can go to work, as there's a bit of cribbing up needed due to the slight slope

I missed the power gal's phone call by few minutes this afternoon.
 
By looking at the clients house it would seem to me that a high skill level would be valued
And really in this biz all we have to sell is skill and experience
I think your selling yourself short by 30%
 
Doesn't look too bad if craned, bark still completely intact. We did one yesterday, over primaries, 100' English elm, 3.5' dbh without a stitch of bark from top to bottom, been dead for over 2 years. Smart client you have to get right on it and not sit on it for a while Roger.
 
Roger_Barnett said:

We got the job.... but service to three houses needs to be dropped or rerouted. Ness Crane will supply their 55 ton truck mount unit. But City Light informed me that they would need $4000 to drop the lines, if they showed up at 7 am, and restrung them sometime after 4 pm. So I asked them what the charge, if any, would be if they do the drops at the normal time, but two days in a row. This would allow us to rig out a fair bit of the brush on day one, and then crane the tough limbs and wood on day two. She will let me know. I hope they will do that for the normal charge, which is zero.... Urban Hardwoods has committed to purchase the wood for $1500, and pay for it being picked up and delivered to their lot by Marilyn's Recycle.

A facebook commenter suggested supplying a generator for one neighbor who would be affected, and leaving their power down overnight... My client, whose property is on the water, and worth $4-8m, said that he has a generator.... and his phone and cable lines will remain up, as they're not in the way. And I can R&R the phone/cable lines myself to the other two houses.

The tree is 14'5" in circumference, with a couple really long and heavy laterals, plus some brittle dead wood in the top, and with that fancy landscape underneath, a crane is really needed to get the hard brush down, and, of course for the wood, as it is being bought by www.urbanhardwoods.com .

If we had to rig that tree down, I think it would take 3-4 days, and cost $12-16k, plus wood removal costs. Whaddya say, Reg?

With crane assist, I'm thinking $5000 labor...expecting it to take two short days. But I think I'm going to tell the client that $6000 for labor might be needed. I haven't provided a written estimate yet, but told him $5000, maybe less. Other fees will be the road closure, permit and signage--which, for a truck mount boom truck, should be $500 or less. It's a corner, and no homes will be cut off from accessing their driveways. And Urban Hardwoods said they would take some of the smaller wood, under 12"...but since I don't like chipping much material over 6", as it fills ups the truck too quickly, I'll probably allow another $500-650 for a trash truck to take the smaller wood. Dead elm is supposed to be chipped, burned or buried and not used for firewood, due to the elm beetle DED problem.
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Sounds and looks like your on the right path does the forestry people who are buying the log know about the beetles?
 
Don
Roger_Barnett said:
monkeylove, note I stated:

If we had to rig that tree down, I think it would take 3-4 days, and cost $12-16k, plus wood removal costs.

Correct, evo. And, I'm confident we can get the pwr dropped for free, so the job should not cost the client over $8500. Ness is at $250 hour for that crane.... might be over an hour each way before we can go to work, as there's a bit of cribbing up needed due to the slight slope

I missed the power gal's phone call by few minutes this afternoon.
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Dont rig it ,, to much shit to brake and to nice spot
 
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