Moss Cinching Lanyard prototype

My solution for the cinched lanyard is for the general population, 98% of climbers. Obviously not, for the 2% smoking meth tweakers in their basement with a knitting fetish who have too much time on their hands.
 
Worthaug said:
Can’t wait for you to get the ring stick in a union or partially stick to the point where it whips out and the ring breaks a front tooth.

Poor Andy, can’t ever handle my criticism. Good luck with your square wheel, buddy.
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I’m digging your ring trick, but, but, really?

You were not watching the demo video with full attention, ring on the end is absolutely not remotely retrievable through a tight union as I mentioned.

As they say, “Boys, take it out onto the street”. No need to keep polluting this thread.
-AJ
 
Brocky said:
This is 1/2” Stable Braid with the Cousins splice, also a couple of soft variations.
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Good stuff!

Easy shackle install with your spliced long eye and constrictors. I’d double or triple up the constrictor above a shackle or a ring, the loading might degrade a single constrictor over time. Edit: I zoomed in on your constrictor stitching photo, looks solid but maybe a few more turns to beef it up and shrink tubing to reduce abrasion, the cinch lock/bight is always pushing on that.
-AJ
 
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moss said:
Whoa dude! Lighten it up. Or maybe that’s your version of lightening it up, You’ll have to tell me more about your drug use history, I have no idea what you’re talking about, I need some educating apparently.

At risk of revealing too much medical history but I guess I need to mention it to calm you down. When I was 7 years-old I had a severe autoimmune response to a measles infection, my immune system destroyed a high percentage of my subcutaneous fat, it cannot be restored. As a result i’ve always been very thin. The only way I can put on weight is by building muscle mass. Just guessing here, is that what you’re referring to in regard to meth? Best wishes.

Edit: I have a clue on this meth reference, I was walking down the street in my small town as a teenager, some guy approached me and asked me if I had any speed to sell. Holy Hell! Then I realized my gaunt face gave him the wrong message. Appearances are deceptive.
-AJ
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Totally giving you a hard time, Andy! Keep up the good work and honest tinkering.
 
Should have mentioned it was for the picture only, it’s an old true blue lanyard with a big enough eye for the demo. You don’t need a shackle, a bight is pushed through the large eye, and then over the carabiner, which isn’t there, same basic concept without the hardware.
 
Worthaug said:
Moss, how long does it take you to build this configuration? FWIW, I can hand splice Velocity with whipping in 4 1/2 minutes...
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The hand-stitching takes a long time no doubt. For this lanyard it is for prototyping, I'd like to see it machine stitched. Splicing is good, what's the deal on load/unload cycles for the bury/throat just above the eye? does chronic flexing degrade the splice?
-AJ
 
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Oh damn, it is true, I do not have unlimited time to play with this fun stuff! Just figured out a better cinch method with this "attached ring" lanyard, installs smoother and retrieves remotely smoother/easier. Next up to build is a say 60' long lanyard with the same ring/eye configuration, a super adjunct to create a double SRS system. Run say the Rope Wrench on it, quick 3:1 if you want (just add micro pulley or substitute roll n' lock biner on the end eye), and remotely retrievable. Or it can be run standalone as a minimal combo SRS/MRS/3:1 whatever. With a shackle instead of a ring it all gets more versatile since it can be taken out if you want to use the lanyard a different way for a particular climb. It turns out having a fixed ring as part of a lanyard end keeps on giving.
-AJ
 
moss said:
The hand-stitching takes a long time no doubt. For this lanyard it is for prototyping, I'd like to see it machine stitched. Splicing is good, what's the deal on load/unload cycles for the bury/throat just above the eye? does chronic flexing degrade the splice?
-AJ
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Not that I’ve seen from use or break testing. The CTF is the same as any part of the rope.
 
Did an owl nest box install for a customer today. I used the cinched lanyard as a primary working line at the box as I positioned it and hung it on the tree. Was fairly awesome, I’ve got the cinch install going very smooth and quick now. I tried a different cinch configuration and also implemented a RADS by simply adding a micropulley to the carabiner in the end tight eye. That was nice as I was making many quick movements side-to-side and above and below the box.

https://flic.kr/p/2iaJuQ5

Different cinch configuration
https://flic.kr/p/2iaN1f5

https://flic.kr/p/2iaLSZK

-AJ
 
Mowerr said:
You could also probably use a revolver in that config instead of the micro
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I was thinking the same thing about my RollClipZ. Maybe not as handy when back in normal side-D mode, however. But I usually have one on my saddle on a climb and it would be harder for me to fumble and drop than a micro pulley.
 
Mowerr said:
You could also probably use a revolver in that config instead of the micro
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Yeah, occurred to me but it would have to be sewn into the tight eye and I’d rather have the flexibility to remove the biner at the end of the lanyard when I want to. Since the biner is already there in the cinch config simply adding the micropulley to make the RADS is easy and quick. That’s a standard DMM oval not the micro. Micro is wicked cool though ;-)
-AJ
 
The other aspect of the RADS lanyard implementation is it points to a nice rescue MA lifter ready to go just adding the micropulley. I think that with a foot ascender on the tail of the lanyard and two arms also on the tail you could lift an injured climber enough to pick them off their system if that is what was needed in a particular SRS (victim’s system) rescue scenario.

Something else I noticed is the hitch doesn’t need a wrench above it in this RADS, a hand on the tail below the built-in redirect is enough to make the hitch work smoothly.
-AJ
 
Worthaug said:
I dig the new cinch. I actually pictured that when I watched the video, but, it was so long that I forgot to mention it ‍
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Yeah it's essentially the cinch you use except with a captive ring. It's a hair more fiddly to install then the primary cinch technique since you have to open the carabiner gate but actually inconsequential slowing things down ;-)

Once I started using the lanyard for real I quickly figured out the quickest/simplest ways to implement. As opposed to my fumbling during the initial sunset demo when I ran out the door like an excited kid on Christmas morning, just after finishing the sewing ;-)
-AJ
 
So to be 100percent clear because I hear different things in every thread....there are no issues with choking a sewn splice or hand splice?
If there is then what are no go's bc I'm sure there's more than me out there confused on what's acceptable or not when splices are choked or cinched.
 
I'm sure You could make the eyes so they could accommodate one of the pulley biners out there
 
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